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how?
yes, unfortunately
every country is a dictatorship of one class over the others
Isn't fascism a component of capitalist societies that gets turbo charged when capital finds itself in a state of crises? Sort of a self defense mechanism to keep the "left" from actually making gains among the population?
"Comrades, fascism in power was correctly described by the Thirteenth Plenum of the Executive Committee of the Communist International as the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital."
-- Georgi Dimitrov at the Seventh World Congress of the Communist International
In practice, fascism implies a few things, such as more or less total elimination of labour rights and socialist ideas, the scapegoating and extreme repression of one or more minority groups within the country (and historically in other countries as well), and a bourgeoisie unified in the goal of strengthening and maintaining their control through the power of their perceived nation
That looks like a yes to me.
yes, your previous comment describes one facet of fascism
Ticks a lot of the fascist boxes for me, mandatory nationalism and historical revisionism in school, the whole All-Russia "Young Army" National Military Patriotic Social Movement Association, massive internal security rosgvardia, claiming other countries belong to them reminds me of Lebensraum etc.
All countries in Europe have historical revisionism in school and most of them aren't fascist (yet). The government may have started implying that Ukraine should have remained part of Russia after the escalation in 2022, but in practice, it was very determined for Ukraine to remain intact (including a semi-autonomous Donbass) up until that point, naively believing that Germany and others would actually pressure Ukraine to uphold Minsk 1 and 2. As for nationalism, there are plenty of non-fascist countries with a very nationalistic population
Ticks a lot of the fascist boxes for me, mandatory nationalism and historical revisionism in school, the whole pledge of alleigence and JROTC, massive internal security from the NSA, claiming land belongs to them through Manifest Destiny reminds me of Lebensraum etc.
Can be true for both. I find it hard to argue that Russia is less fascist than the US
I don't necessarily think it is less fascist. I just don't think its more fascist than the US
The thing is i wouldn't necessarily use that as the most descriptive term in either case. When applied to the Russian Federation, its really just something libs say because they're the designated enemy
Russia is definitely less fascist than the US. Even just the way the US has and continues to treat indigenous and black people makes the US pretty damn fascist.