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How could the EU do this??
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this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2023
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Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.
These arrows already exist! The France one is the English tunnel and the Ireland one is there because they need to make Ireland feel like one island. The uk dont have much control over how well they connect to their border. I think the uk would have benefited from this plan as they seem to be having problems with trains
All I hear is that scheming EU is shooting two arrows at the UK.
Not really, though? There are no development plans for the new railways in the UK and furthermore the entirety of the UK is greyed out but all the independent area of Ireland is part of the map.
I think that's the point, no? It's unfortunately up to the UK now to do what they will with the transport systems the EU will hook them up with.
Listen, I'm not defending the article written by people who supported Brexit then got mad about how much of a shit deal Brexit is for them, but the point of the above comment is that the maps include arrows connecting to UK Railways, but that's besides the point because the larger context of the discussion is about how a massive Railway Expansion project completely excludes the UK. It's completely moot and irrelevant to talk about the existing railways.
Huh? Apologies for being slow but what is your point?
My neighbour redid their driveway, it completely excludes my driveway, obviously. We used to share a driveway mind you and we could have shared the cost of whe work on both our driveway but I got uptight because he let brown people use both our driveways. I told him driveways first, my driveway is losing its identity due to all the brown people and I got the whole neighbourhood to vote against shared driveways.
Pretty fucking cunty of him to only redo his driveway now though innit?
I will go very slowly.
The rails are connected
The UK is not part of the plan
There is no point in mentioning that the rails are connected in a discussion about the UK not being part of the plan. It's just silly. It's like talking about changes to cars and one person in the conversation starts talking about how the wheels have been the same for 14 years now.
Why are you hung up on the mention of the rails being connected?
Ima just return that question to sender.
the UK cannot be included, because they aren't a Schengen-member and the EU doesn't want customs checks on their train lines...
it's entirely up to the UK what they do with their rails within their borders.
and as was already pointed out:
there already IS a connection between the EU and the UK!!
the new plans are largely for connections between capitals of EU countries and major population centers, both of which already have rail connections in the UK.
so what do you expect the EU to do about the rail network in the UK?
Yes the rails are connected, but you should not be arguing to me that this means the UK is part of the plan when it very clearly isn't. You're arguing on both sides right now, I don't think you're in the right state of mind.
Ireland is also not a member of the Schengen agreement...
Ireland is not connected by rail either, so customs don't matter as much; you need to change the mode of transportation anyways
Why should EU project include non-EU states?
It shouldn't, but that's not what the discussion is about, is it? Somebody made a statement that it IS part of the plan, which is verifiably false.
Who? Where?
I can't tell if you're lost or trolling. If you go up this thread to the comment I first replied to:
and this is in a discussion about the EU's renovated railway plans centered around TransEuropean Landmark transport. It also has arrows pointing into Ukraine and Belarus, but that doesn't mean any of those countries are included in the plans.
I also want to stress again, since many of you seem easily confused, I think the UK SHOULD be responsible for their own railway improvements building upon the plans of the EU by themselves, since that's the logical conclusion of Brexit, but it makes no sense to say they're part of the plan when they're not part of the plan.
The arrows are just a way to represent linking of the network beyond the EU borders. No one is saying the arrows mean UK or Ukraine or Belarus is included in the plan.
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.
You are quite clearly trolling.
Sure buddy, it's me who's trolling and not someone who doesn't understand concepts of mapping legends.