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[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately they don't care. They know what they're doing,

This discussion (and name calling) isn’t for you. It’s for the audience.

And yet they keep doing it, and defending it.

And it's not just this thread: read their comment history, and it's littered with name calling and personal attacks. I report their really egregious stuff but it's tedious reporting every single comment that has personal attacks.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I think you might be right. I let it slide in other comments as I put it down to the ordinary liberal world-outlook. But there's only so long I'll put up with schoolyard name-calling. I've got better things to do.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think Lemmy needs a little bit of work on how blocking a user works. It gets confusing seeing new comments come through and not being able to see what they're replying to. You also have no option to report a comment if you can't see it. Even if you click the "show context" button, knowing that you're about to force a blocked user's comment to show, it just refuses. You have to open in an incognito tab and click show context. Basically, I want the ability to not see their comments in general, and not see them on the "new comments" feed, but if I explicitly ask to see their comments, let me do that.

I have blocked a large number of users who have consistently added nothing to conversation, or who routinely resort to personal attacks.

I am truly frustrated and disappointed that so many people:

  • feel it acceptable to personally attack another commenter
  • accuse everyone who disagrees with them of being a paid shill, or a troll
  • use "shut down" words, with the intent to either entirely discredit the person they're responding to, or end the conversation where it is
  • literally copy-and-paste the same reply all over a thread or targeting a person[^1]
  • make bold claims with no sources, and when you reply correcting them and provide sources of your own, they downvote and don't reply
  • engage in conspiracy thinking and go on imaginative expeditions, where connection to reality is secondary to consistency with their beliefs

I know it's naive to think people will be able to always get along. And I guess it is naive to assume that people actually want to learn, and try to help others learn. But that's what I want. I'd much rather converse with someone who shares none of my values or beliefs as long as they're level-headed, not resorting to trickery or fallacious reasoning, are willing to source their statements, and respect me in dialogue.

[^1]: I saw one yesterday where the person copy-and-pasted something like "Russia started the war" about 10 times across a thread, several times replying to the same person, sometimes other people. Every time, it wasn't actually directly relevant to the comment they replied to. It's just an attempt to brute-force shut someone down.

[-] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for pointing this out, I'll stop feeding them.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah I had them blocked for a bit over a day, but they're so prolific that I keep seeing other comments responding to theirs (without the ability to see theirs) which confuses me even more while reading my feed.

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