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Full conference room for the talk about Solarpunk at the CCC congress in Hamburg.

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[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

Rainbows really don't need any extra colors or symbols. The whole point was that they're already covering the whole spectrum. Giving everyone an extra color completely defeats the purpose and singles out all those who aren't having their unique color added to it.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

That's quite over-dramatic, especially in a German context with what the Nazis did to gay people, and completely ignores the point I made.

[-] Lyrata@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

Then I'm sure you're also familiar with the ransacking of Hirschfeld's Institute for Sexology in 1933, where some of the first treatment plans for trans people were developed. It was a place where gay people and trans people were accepted and treated with respect by medical personnel.

That famous picture of the book burnings? Those were patient records and the research archives of the institute. So no, it did not just start with gay people, and trans people's persecution by nazis was relevant to bring up because it's one of the first kinds of persecution the nazis did. Dismissing that is ahistorical and dismissive of the history of oppression of trans people.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago

The base flag is always just the rainbow. The other additions are meant to highlight whatever needs highlighting. In LGBTQA+ contexts, you can add the trans and poc and whatnot because those are marginalised groups that deserve some extra visibility.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

They made a choice to use a space typically reserved for POC and trans people.

[-] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Reserved by whom? The CEO of gay? The rainbow includes everyone already.

[-] mnglw@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

As long as there are transphobes flying the rainbow flag, no it doesn't.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

This! People don't seem to understand that there is transphobia in the queer community and it's bad :(

[-] mnglw@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeah, its to the point where when I see a rainbow flag I automatically go "This is not for me, this person is not safe" Same with the still prelavent "Love is love" slogans. That's great, but I'm aroace and trans so uhhh? Guess I'm not included. Better be safe than deal with a transphobe (and be sorry)

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