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Every time you get it but you seem to conveniently look away. Here it is again.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/
I read it and I responded to it some time ago. The only interesting claim it makes is regarding the tunnels not connecting, haven't read anything on it since.
Oh I see the IDF doesn't need to provide any evidence to bomb a hospital . We have to disprove their lies while they actively block any investigation. They can just say "KHAMASS!"
Just the tunnels being not connected is already a major proof that the IDF lied because that means it can't be a command center and you know it.
There's plenty of evidence! There's a bag of guns behind the MRI machine, there's footage of Hamas bringing hostages into the hospital, there's a confession by the director of the hospital...
As for claims the tunnels don't connect this has not been established, it is simply been called into question. The article simply says it cannot be established from the IDF footage. Israeli and American intelligence sources claim that it does
Yo that's crazy dude, I seem to recall the IDF themselves posting full videos of their 3D map of that tunnel network. You were really all about that a little while ago.
Oh wait it's still up on the IDFs channel!
Care to comment on that one?
I guess that them throwing a bag of guns behind an MRI machine and torturing a hospital director into a forced confession is all we need. Forget videos of the actual tunnels and "command center"!
Who needs easily verifiable evidence in the age that we have cameras, when you can just have random people confessing to things!
And Hamas getting medical treatment for a hostage in a hospital is sure weird. The IDF just lets all their hostages rot in cells without medial treatment.
The 3D models are interesting, not sure how you expect me to confirm or deny their validity.
There's no proof they tortured anyone, it's fine to be skeptical of evidence, but don't pretend it doesn't exist. I believe they also fired an RPG from the entrance of a hospital and ran inside but I'm not sure if it's this one or a different one.
If any of these are true, it makes these hospitals into a legal military target. If you don't like that, be pissed off at Hamas, not Israel for defending itself against those who use civilian infrastructure for military purposes, against international law.
" The 3D models and non existent tunnels which were the entire legal basis the IDF used were a complete lie and imma quickly pivot to more lies because I have been owned"
There wasn't an RPG fired this is a blatant lie too. It's clear that you are here only to spread propaganda for the IDF.
The IDF filmed a drone shot with one guy walking past the front of the hospital with an object looking like an RPG at a time the IDF already had surrounded the hospital. Totally not sus. And a man walking past a hospital with a weapon is also not a reason to bomb a hospital and claim there is a military base in there.
And now everything you claim has been disproven, surely you will admit to being wrong and go the IDF being genocidal Nazis illegally bombing hospitals right?
Lol, grow up.
I'd like credible citations that all of that has been disproven, I read the article you linked before and it doesn't say any of that. It's quite skeptical about the evidence but It does not disprove the IDF's claims.
The format of your comments is exactly what Hamas recommends their supporters should do on social media, right down to the Nazi comparison, they would be proud.
Sad that all you can do is gish gallop to more bullshit.
You have been utterly disproven. Stop being an IDF troll.