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As a EV owner I don't worry about range that much but I'm constantly infuriated by the shitty charging experience. Charging at home is great but road trips are a constant pain in the ass. Let's face it, most people are not interested in switching to EV at all and will find an excuse until ICE cars are banned (I'm looking at you people with two family cars and private garage). You want to convince the people actually thinking about it? Make charging work.
The experience is pretty fine at the Tesla superchargers
Yes but we all know what the issues with Tesla are.
I think other brands can charge there soon.
I've just tried registering in their app and got and error. After finally entering (without any confirmation that my account was creates) the charger next to me does not appear in the app. It's a big charging station for multiple cars and the app says it does not exist. Overall experience: 3/10.
There's a Zunder charger next to it but their entire infra just collapse. The app is down, the page is down and the charger that admits card payments is unresponsive. Everyone run buy an EV...
Plenty of people with two family and private garages have EVs, they get level 2 chargers or something like that hooked up for charging at home. You’re right about the charging experience though, it seems to me that too many people have EVs but not enough public garages or outside parking spaces have chargers.
What I mean is that there's nothing more we can do to sell an EV to a family like this. Sure, lots of people already own EVs but many will not buy and EV even if they are in the perfect situation to get one. This people will only get an EV when ICE cars are gone.
Yeah my thoughts exactly. My comment was downvoted but said something similar. It's all about charging being too slow, generally incompatible, and there not being enough of them. Once the infrastructure is fixed, acceptance will be much higher. There are so many things to like about EVs. Cheaper maintenance, cheaper operating costs, quieter, less pollution, much simpler design so less likely to break, better handling due to lower center of mass (generally), less consumables (like brakes ... thanks regenerative braking), and darnit just plain fun to drive.
I have to disagree, people like you described are not aware of the charging infrastructure app ridden sign up and reliability bullshit. Fixing that isn't going to make Karen who's never owned an EV buy one.
Your suggestion will only help people who already own an EV and understand the struggle.
This sign-up pain is real. There should be a global standard that says everyone can use a contactless debit or credit card to pay ALWAYS, and the cost rate is the same as signing up to an account.
EU just passed a law to make chargers accepting credit card mandatory every 50km on main highways. It comes into effect in 2025. It's a move in good direction but they really have to focus on availability as well. It's crazy how long a charger can be out of service without anyone doing anything about it. It's clearly an afterthought for all the companies involved.
cries in britland
That really should be cries in Englandland . . . I moved from Hertfordshire to Scotland 2 years ago (driving an EV all the way up the A1(M) . . . Chargeplace Scotland really works VERY well . . .
I thought the us govt funding to help build out charging infrastructure required that you could just use a credit card
I'm saying that Karen will not even consider EV because insert default excuse. People that do consider EVs will investigate the state of the infrastructure a bit and decide to wait. Play store and other pages are full of reviews. Also, anyone riding with me can see it's state. You don't have to own an EV to be aware of the issues.