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[-] bored_runaway@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Oh? I've seen several similar claims in media that always, on closer look, ended up as some combination of already organic/live parts with synthetic parts. Did we ever managed to make somehing "alive" strictly from something synthetic/dead?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am talking about the Miller-Urey experiment. They didn't create life, but in the words of Forrest Valkai, we have steps 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, and 100 for abiogenesis. Creationists right now like to say "haha, you don't have step 3!" But when we do reach step 3, they'll still be able to point to 6, 7, 8, 9, and so on. And when we do reach all those steps, creationists will pivot, and say "haha! You admit that life was intelligently designed!" As if the laboratory conditions that scientists use aren't simulating the mineral and nutrient rich conditions of the pre-life oceans, and as if there weren't billions of cubic meters of water for it to randomly happen in over hundreds of millions of years

[-] bored_runaway@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I'm not familiar with experiment and I certainly don't subscribe to any creationist logic. But until science can create life from death (a proof that we understand it well enough) we can't really claim much about it or eliminate intelligent desing, however unprobable it seemed. And as far as I know, currently there isn't even consensus on definition of life.

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