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It is pretty sick to play around with real human lives like this.
When you make false promises so the immigrants board the plane or bus, then schedule their asylum hearing across the country, it is very much playing with people's lives.
600 million in federal aid was set up to assist with migration in 2023. $770 million is what ended up being dispersed. (An extra 170 million added in). If the aid isn't enough Texas should request more aid.
Everyone is already pitching in. That was started under the Obama/Biden administration if I am not mistaken. Handling a situation responsibly. Putting up barbed wire in rivers and manipulating people and shipping them across the country with no notice isn't responsible. If they wanted responsible they would have reached out to those states and set up a planned process.
Now on to the part that should be fully supported by everyone unless they are just preaching hate. Updating immigration law. The sooner they are documented and working the sooner they are paying taxes. Incoming migrants are money to be made. If we have a good immigration system we fast track their ability to make the country more money quicker (more than covering all those costs we invested)
Great post, but I want to correct the inference that undocumented immigrants don't pay taxes. That isn't true.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/us/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-cec/index.html
For those that don't pay income taxes, they are no different than the 40% of US households with low incomes. Gaining documentation is not likely to push their income to a level where that would really change.
They also pay sales taxes, and property taxes (indirectly through rent).
Non-border states also have undocumented immigrants. What are you talking about? The farther they travel from the border, the better the pay.
yeah, they should all stay in Texas, right
Or maybe we should give these people a choice in where they go?
This is just throwing them around like a football.
When you put it that way, we should be applauding how much they're helping the immigrants get out of Texas.
Texas does have a more developed system for handling asylum seekers, so yeah.
Does it? Seems like they system boils down to:
Put them in cages Ship them to another city/state Kill them Use them as cheap disposable labor
If it snows in Texas do we point to Illinois and say then that Texans should be able to adapt fast enough because the Illini can handle a problem they're used to?
Both are unexpected events for which the affected area isn't equipped but the other is. The main difference here is that people are responsible for dumping these humans into an area that's not equipped to handle them, whereas no one is responsible for snow.
I'm not sure that's true, but I'd have to double check. I'm pretty sure it's federal money to be spent as the state sees fit.
Also, in this analogy, this is a regular snow storm. It's just, you know, you gotta have snow plows.
People literally do, so?
Then those people are wrong and don't understand how dealing with snow or asylum seekers works.
Texas power grid has entered the chat
They weren't wrong. Some of those fuckers died of exposure in 37 degree weather, inside a house, a simple blanket prevents that.
The inability for an individual to handle a situation and for a local government to handle a situation are two different things. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there wasn't a single snow plow in Texas.
Graders are snow plows so, no, they have a bunch.
Let's pretend that they do. Do you think the local Texas municipalities know everyone who has a plow attachment for their grader and loader that's road-appropriate and do you think they have contracts with them for road plowing in the event that it snows in Texas? Do they have salt or sand spreads, too? Because if the answer to any of those is no, they ain't clearing the roads to a safe condition.
Now, let's go back to the original point. Chicago almost certainly has some capacity to handle asylum seekers. They're a large city with an international airport. But that capacity is probably limited, since most of their direct international flights are coming from Canada. They don't have enough capacity to handle having extra seekers flown in from other areas that typically handle more. They don't have enough temporary housing contracted, they don't have enough lawyers that specialize in asylum, they don't have enough placement contacts to get people integrated while they wait for court, etc.
Having a system to deal with either snow or asylum seekers requires specialized knowledge, equipment, and organization, none of which are easy to scale overnight when you're suddenly faced with a problem different to the one you're set up for. The people shipping migrants across the country know this perfectly well, but they're counting on you to be ignorant about it, hoping that you'll believe a city can just turn on a dime and perfectly deal with a problem or a magnitude they've never faced before.
All you've demonstrated here is you don't know what a grader is, or what counties do.
Edit: nevermind, this conversation has run its course.
"Let’s pretend that they do." You aren't half as clever you think you are.
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