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Maher is one of those older guys who thinks they figured everything out 30 years ago and doesn't need to try any more. The epitome of a lazy, entitled boomer.
The problem with Bill Maher has nothing to do with his age. He sucks, it's true, but lots of guys exactly the same age as him do not suck.
I get that but it's absolutely connected to his age. He's spent the last 30 years in a bubble of wealth and privilege and has never had any pressure to update his thinking.
This. He has no idea what it's like to be an average person anymore so his commentary is disconnected and misses the point. The guy lives in an echo chamber... I honestly can't believe he still has a show because I don't know anyone that still watches.
What amusing is that he frequently accuses both the left and the right of existing in their own little bubbles. Self awareness isn't his strong suit.
Wie all are vulnerable to misconception. I think many people are just not aware to this fact or too lazy to question their own thoughts regularly.
I still watch, despite agreeing with what is being said in this thread. I guess I do like that he takes controversial guests for example. Even if I don’t like or agree with that person or Bill, I’m interested to hear what’s being said. I don’t just mean his one-on-ones at the start either. He has some fun conversation table guests too.
Oh man, he had had Ted Cruz in early November. Cringe. But then the week after that he had Albert Brooks and Rob Reiner, which was super fun to see those goofballs.
He also had Andrew Cuomo and Melissa DeRosa on the show around Halloween. It was interesting actually. I had written him off. It seems that allegations were pursued against Andrew and they came up with pretty much nothing. Yeah he’s awkward and such, and I’m not sure I trust him, but Melissa DeRosa even wrote a memoir: _ What’s left unsaid: my life, at the center of power, politics, & crisis_ and she defends Cuomo in it. I mean, if he’s such a womanizer? Why is this person he worked closely with, fiercely defending him? She worked right next to him, and I’m inclined to believe she had a good view of this situation. I also thought Andrew was very helpful during COVID with his daily Covid reports. Lastly, again, I’m not some Cuomo thumper either, my point was simply, I am not sure I would have heard any of this if it hadn’t been on Bill’s show.
Sure he has some decent guests on from time to time but so do most talk show hosts that have been on the air for decades. What I'm saying is that Bill has become stagnant and they could find another talking head to bring in more viewers with a slightly less old white dude take. But all of that being said I'm glad it helped expand your perspective and view some situations differently.
It's always easier to stay still as you get older. You have to start to fight to improve.
The struggle is real.
And the real is a struggle
So, you're admitting it's not about his age. It's about his wealth.
If that's what you're saying I'm with you. Ageism is as wrong as any other bigotry.
I can't be more clear on this.
And yet you live in society. curious.
I think they are saying the age is a byproduct of the number of years he's spent in luxury. So age is connected, but by virtue of him having been wealthy long enough to forget what it was like before.
Your going to love Lemmy.
Exactly. His successes have fueled his ego into thinking all his opinions are important and correct. His failures are haters or people who "don’t get it."
Well, TIL. For some reason, despite not really knowing anything about him, I had the impression that he's a reasonable guy.
That's been his whole shtick since the 90s. Ask "common sense" questions, elevate yourself into the Chad Wojack and everyone else is Soyjack, dunk on stupid religious people. Into the 2010s and 2020s, he went full culture war though.
I mean he's said it in the podcast in so many words: "why are the regular people more right than the experts sometimes?" I'm paraphrasing of course, I don't care to listen to it again but that's what kickstarted this conversation.
Right, because that kind of intellectual arrogance is definitely a generational trait that us Millennials and Zoomers don't ever need to worry about.
So much generational bullshit that people buy into these days. What garbage.
Your words, not mine,
In your rush to take offense, you missed my point completely. I'll paraphrase:
Older people (omitting any triggering mention of boomers) can often struggle to keep their opinions and thinking relevant as they can become less receptive to new information.
It was true 100 years ago and it'll be true 100 years from now.
It's got nothing to do with age or receptivity to new information. Vaccines aren't new. This isn't an instance of an old person not understanding something that came about "past their time." Furthermore, there are plenty of younger people who are on the anti-vax bandwagon, so I'm not sure what your obsession with age is.
I don't think I've misunderstood you at all; I just think your opinion is wrong, bigoted, and ignorant.
Disagree.
mRNA ones are pretty new.
How do you know?
Yes, Maher is like this on a whole raft of issues though.
OK.
Not my intention. Anyway, you've contributed precisely nothing to this discussion so it's probably best if we leave it there.
except you're not being pithy. you're just an asshole.
you're responding to the wrong person.
nobody was being an asshole to anyone. the OP was addressing people aging yet not updating their thinking with new information. then when you made your asshole comment (yes, you were the first asshole), he even clarified without being an asshole back.
you're being the asshole here. good news though, you can just stop