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The point is that there will be no way to handle the turn signal through muscle memory. With a traditional control, it is always in the same place in relation to your body. It doesn’t move. When it’s in the steering wheel, it can be in many, many different places. If you have media controls on your steering wheel, try using them during a turn without taking your eyes off the road. Now pretend they are smooth and act like a touch input on a dual shock controller.
Your thumb stays at the same place on the steering wheel when you’re not driving straight? O.o
There are numerous times you would need to put your turn signal on when the steering wheel isn’t perfectly straight. A three point turn for instance. Exiting a roundabout in some places, a curved residential road. Just because you fail to think of scenarios it applies in, doesn’t mean it doesn’t apply.
Pretty honest conversation here. If you’re doing any of the things I just listed, you’re improperly driving if your thumbs aren’t moving.
It’s cute how you’re hung up on my wording, and completely ignoring my three very real situations where your thumbs are very likely nowhere near their normal position.
Please tell me more about how I’m arguing dishonestly with what should have been obvious was a hyperbolic statement. 😉
Whatever you need to tell yourself to avoid the situation I suppose. I just wanted to make sure you knew it was pretty transparent.
That's not the issue, imagining driving through a roundabout that curves left and having to find a button somewhere on the steering wheel, which is at an angle, in order to indicate right before turning tight in order to exit the roundabout.
A stalk will always be in the same position. The same cannot be said for buttons.
Drivers frequently change their hand placement as they turn the wheel. You lose precision and basic ability to manipulate the wheel if you don't.
Quoting yourself won't magically make you right.
So why do it?
It was. You're just plain wrong so it was ignored.
Again, it depends on the angle of the steering wheel. The buttons may be upside down if the car is turning sharply enough.
Do you stick your hands to the steering wheel with Krazy glue?
You can't be serious if you think people don't take sharp turns from time to time and have to indicate.
I'll do it your way...
I was replying to this comment:
Are you seriously telling me you never reposition your hands on the steering wheel?
This is total nonsense:
Ever heard about U-turns? You need to signal while doing those too. That's just one example that disputes your position.
I'll write it down simply and then I'm done because getting through to you is seemingly impossible.
People sometimes need to turn on their indicators while not driving in a straight line. It happens, accept it.
I think you're right. People in this thread are forgetting that this steering yoke doesn't have anywhere to put your hands other than right next to the buttons
A driving instructor saying "I couldn't use this on my first go" isn't a fatal argument for the control
Sure a stick is probably superior, but I bet you could build muscle memory on a wheel that works like a race car's
But it's not a yoke, it's a steering wheel, which generally turn up to 1 and 1/2 times each way, which with a small radius roundabout (which is a lot of them in Norway) means you'll have to go hand over hand to turn sharply enough, thus not having your hands on the exact same spots through the turn and thus not able to press the right haptic feedback panel at that time.
See https://lemmy.ml/comment/7056795