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[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 272 points 10 months ago

Replacing physical controls with touch buttons continues to be an incredibly dumb idea. Luckily several other manufactures who hopped on the trend are realizing it was a bad choice.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 112 points 10 months ago

Is nobody gonna mention this horrible KITT steering wheel?!? That damn thing is dangerous.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 120 points 10 months ago

Yeah round wheels are not a fuckin style choice. It’s so you can grab it anywhere in any situation. This steering wheel looks fuckin deadly

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

They are the worst drivers by infractions. Dead wheel is a culling tool.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

It’s great for Tesla, for one reason - modularity.

If your input/control has a physical button, that immediately needs independent wiring, assembly steps, A THOUGHT OUT PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, another BoM item to build the car/widget, and usually markings that limit its use for other functions (present and planned).

Tesla can bury controls and change interfaces as much as they like on the main touchscreen, or even add new features. It’s still trash for driver usability except when parked for all the obvious reasons, but hey they get to ‘push’ new features over cellular networks as they’re developed. Y’know, instead of selling a complete product in the first place.

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[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 165 points 10 months ago

For those that don't want to read the article:

Tesla is going with buttons on the steering wheel instead of a stick to the left of the wheel

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 141 points 10 months ago

Tesla is going with buttons on the steering wheel instead of a stick to the left of the wheel

Its even worse than that. The buttons are smooth surface (like a touch screen) with haptic feedback. These are truly a horrible idea:

If I had one of these Tesla cars I'd look into retrofitting the stalks back in.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 93 points 10 months ago

If you buy a Tesla at this point, you deserve to be stuck with it.

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[-] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago

They might get in trouble with EU laws if they do it here as well...

[-] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 25 points 10 months ago

Gotta love good regulation.

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[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 months ago

Holy shit that's worse than how the article put it

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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 78 points 10 months ago

Wtf, seriously? I've tried using media buttons on the steering wheel during a turn. It's not reliable in the slightest, because it's a moving target.

Does the non circular steering non-wheel never go past 90 degrees or something?

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

I once accidentally dialed 911 from my steering wheel phone buttons while pulling a turn. Surprised the shit out of me and the dispatcher didn’t sound like this was the first call of the type. This is a fucking terrible idea.

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 46 points 10 months ago

In Norway, you have to indicate your exit in a roundabout by activating your turn signal, and he found it difficult while turning the steering wheel, which you have to do in a roundabout. A driving student would fail their test if they don’t activate their turn signal in a roundabout in Norway.

He said:

I tested the Model 3, and noticed that I lost both focus and direction in roundabouts. It’s not directly life-threatening, but you run the risk of both driving on curbs and other cars if there are two lanes.

After posting his findings in a group for driving schools, he was met with agreement by many other instructors who said that they experienced the same issue and the risk is much higher with students.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 44 points 10 months ago

It's like car features that have been around for 70+ years are the way they are for a reason.

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[-] hackris@lemmy.world 115 points 10 months ago

Tesla’s reasoning for going away with a method universally used for signaling turn for decades is that it enables them to remove a physical part, the stalk, and it believes activating a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving.

Why the hell do billionaires keep laughing in our faces? I swear every time one of them or their companies opens their mouth, it's like they're making fun of us, the poor people.

"We care about your privacy" — (they don't) "a turn signal will soon be unnecessary" etc.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving

That's like not including a stick for the manual transmission, because the automatic one is just around the corner.

I wish I possessed this kind of optimism in my daily life :D

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 101 points 10 months ago

The new Tesla Model 3 should be banned from the whole of Europe until they put the indicator stalk back. It is virtually impossible to safely and legally traverse a roundabout without it.

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[-] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 97 points 10 months ago

Tesla’s reasoning for going away with a method universally used for signaling turn for decades is that it enables them to remove a physical part, the stalk, and it believes activating a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving.

Spit my drink up a bit when I read that.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile Teslas are quickly building a reputation of being impossible to repair, so replacing an industry standard component that never breaks for a digital system is a great way to keep the title.

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[-] hoya@lemmy.ml 87 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's not designed with roundabouts, (i.e. road infrastructure designed with logic and common sense) in mind.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 92 points 10 months ago

It's not designed with any common sense in mind. They just figured they could a) cut costs and b) make the vehicle look "cleaner", because Musk and the people who work for him are intellectually incurious morons who refuse to learn why things are designed the way they are before trying to reinvent them.

The thing about breaking the rules is that if you want to really do it well, you have to understand why those rules exist in the first place. That's hard to do when you start from the position of just assuming that you're smarter than everyone else.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

i am not sure they even kept the cost down since they had to reintroduce the option of normal steering wheels, this just another case of Musk thinking it looks cool so it should be, but then done poorly because they don't have the engineering expertise to do it properly like lexus did it

This is just another case of Cybertruck shit.

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago

It was designed to cut costs and hope fanbois would think it was innovation. It's so dangerous a change it should be banned in countries where drivers are expected to properly indicate while traversing roundabouts.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago

I didn't realize Tesla's even came with turn signals. They must be hard to find because they never get used.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 85 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Leak of Tesla's next-gen Steering wheel:

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What? Physical controls? It'll be a touch screen.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

No no, the steering wheel will be in the touch screen.

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 63 points 10 months ago

Tesla fucking up traditional driving controls only make sense if their self-driving system is working so the driver has no need to touch the steering wheel except in rare case. How good is Tesla's full self driving these days?

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

It regularly kills people. It can't be used on a lot of road types (but people still do because Tesla makes no effort to prevent it). It's still marketed as Full Self Driving despite the fact that Tesla has stated on the record that it is, and I quote, "Not capable of driving itself."

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Any time it benefits them, they claim that their cars are completely autonomous vehicles powered by the most advanced AI. Any time they get their wrists slapped, they claim that it's an assistive feature like cruise control that cannot and will not ever replace the human behind the wheel.

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[-] Revonult@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am more concerned about why the Witcher 3 is featured on the car's screen. Does it double as a PC?

Edit: Spelling

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[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

Tesla has the highest accident rate of any car brand. And Tesla intends to remain number 1 in that regard

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Rapid acceleration, with your eyes pointed a center touch screen. What could go wrong?!

[-] lemmus@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

They are unsafe in every situation, not just on roundabouts.

[-] Elderos@sh.itjust.works 45 points 10 months ago

Style over substance, and a ugly style at that. Of course lots of people are gonna love it and say it is the best thing ever.

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[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 months ago

While in the EU Teslas were already "banned", if you want a proper cat B license, and not just a cat B(78). If you take the test in a car with automatic transmission you get a code 78 license, with which you can legally only drive automatic transmission vehicles.

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[-] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 10 months ago

they are the most advanced company in cost-cutting. They will put everything in 10 sub menus on the screen instead of costly buttons. And the people are confused, they see big screen they think cool. But having metal physical buttons and crowns with haptic feedback is just on another level 🤤. Especially those crowns where theres a silent click that you feel with every turn. Feels so fricking good damn.

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