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[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 86 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And he’s losing a LOT more votes from younger people for supporting the genocide of Palestinians without question.

Finding hundreds of billions of dollars without any question for more bombs that will kill more civilians, and yet never even raising a finger to fight for some of the these younger generations’ needs that were supposedly part of his agenda.

It’s not going to be pretty when Biden loses the election.

Young people don’t watch cnn msnbc fox etc… all of these networks never question the support of Palestinian genocide and unconditional support of israel.

The media young people watch question these things. Thank god

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago

I can tell you don’t watch CNN or MSNBC because they totally are questioning things and are highly critical of Netanyahu, who is basically Israeli George W Bush. Young people can vote for who they want to vote for, but if they all toss their votes in the trash for a Russian plant like RFK Jr, I will be blaming them for the repercussions of a second Trump term as equally as I would blame his brainwashed cult.

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

They don’t care who you blame.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

They also know that the blame will come with any loss, no matter how they vote.

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

The funny thing is that close to 2/3rds (more on many issues) of Americans actually support the policies that are on the far left (of American politics).

But because we have all been watching corporate media that is literally lying to us, we have been lead to believe that we don’t actually believe what we actually believe.

When you starting breaking down the policies and explain them in simple details, (should we all have healthcare), america is far left when it comes to policies we ALL support.

But ask a Republican if they like “Obamacare” and you will get a completely different answer. This is assuming we are not discussing policy minutiae within Obamacare just Obamacare in general….. and it is pretty much like this across the board….

America is FAR more leftist than the corporate oligarchy would have you believe.

But instead of burning down buildings because of police brutality, low wages, and lack of even the most basic social safety net…..

We are arguing over whether rail workers should get one hour of sick time a year….

It’s fucking ludicrous.

And I know y’all don’t like it…. A vote for a Biden is a vote for more of the same corrupt politics, corporate PACS and corporate donations and the revolving door of senators being bribed for their votes and lining their own pockets.

Y’all are arguing about whether a facist will be our leader, but we already live under a corporate oligarchy…

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[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I do watch MSNBC on occasion. They slobbed Israels knob clear up until they killed like 13,000 people. That was apparently the line.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I think it's around the time israel murdered the hostages in cold blood that the likes of MSNBC was like "Wait a minute... maybe israel isn't telling the truth when they say everyone killed is a Hamas soldier?"

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Yup, thousands of murdered brown children were fine for MSNBC, but three young Jews getting murdered while trying to surrender to their own military is where the moral outrage starts. It's pathetically transparent why they suddenly saw this as problematic.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was EXTREMELY cynical and transparent when the announcement of baby steps towards marijuana legalization came RIGHT as the latest polling showed a nose dive among youth support.

Because he/the DNC clearly had the power and clout to unilaterally make that move months or years ago, but didn’t feel the need to. Having the press release drop at 4:20 eastern was such a cringe ‘fellow kids’ moment designed to distract from the ongoing injustice that keeping it schedule I for decades has done to society.

[-] eletes@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

I live in Georgia and I remember how they promised if we got both our Senate seats to turn blue they would have majority and weed would be legalized along with a third stimulus check. We beat the odds and Warnock won the special election. All of a sudden it was like an wave of amnesia and helplessness hit.

I've been waiting for them to play the legalization card again

[-] crsu@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Their interns spent a lot of time harassing people on Twitter for reminding them about the stimulus check promise. They were quick to revise the history of and gaslight you by doing some weird used car salesman math

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hope the young people will enjoy having Trump as their dictator. Maybe they’ll be just dumb enough to not notice him doing anything differently on the subject.

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[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The only way I can rationalize how much they're fucking up this response is that the party is still reeling from being painted as anti-semitic in 2012 and 2018, and they know that a bunch of Jewish Floridians are single-issue voters. I guess they think it's more important to shore up the Jewish vote in Florida than it is to shore up the youth vote elsewhere, and they're taking the position that as goes Florida, so does 2024.

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

I know they have to make calculated decisions like this, but isn’t this kind of thing why Hillary lost, because she basically didn’t campaign at all in a few states because she assumed her support would stick with her because she deserved it and trump only had degenerate supporters

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

To be fair, there's no single thing that explains why she lost. It was a perfect storm of fuck ups, misinformation, miscalculations, FBI interference, and chaos.

Clinton captured a huge majority of Jewish voters in 2016. She certainly dropped the ball in ignoring the Democratic Party's weak spots, all of which Trump's team targeted with laser precision. But despite her huge margin among Jews in Florida, she may have lost enough disaffected Jewish voters to lose Florida altogether. The margin was 112,911 votes, and there are around 500,000 Jews estimated to live in Florida. Could that have been the straw that broke the camel's back? Maybe.

Trump's overt pandering paid dividends in 2020, when he actually gained Jewish support in Florida, and I suspect the party sees that trend in flashing neon lights, and they're working overtime to make damn sure Biden's pro-Israel bona fides are absolutely unquestioned 10 months from now.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Florida is a red state. It's Trump's home state, It's a winner-take-all state. Biden won't be getting any electors from Florida.

If this is indeed the strategy, it's sheer foolishness. He's taking a hit nationwide just to shore up votes in a state he won't win.

I hope we're not running to win the popular vote and lose the election. Again.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

An anti-Semitism scandal also wrecked Labour in the last UK election.

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[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

The media young people watch are also idealistic. Biden losing the election is only worse in every way on the issue they care about.

For what little it's worth, Biden has at least warned Netanyahu about the damage his war is causing to Israel's international standing. There's not a single Republican that would do that.

More importantly, is the media young people watch building up any alternative to Biden? Or do they just leave people disenfranchised and in a mental sea of despair and political paralysis?

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