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Which software was ahead of its time?
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Do websites count? Vine fizzled out but it would have been a huge success with today's TikTok crowd.
It had today's tiktok crowd. It was a huge hit. The only reason it failed is because of monetisation.
Only reason YouTube is popular. No competitor can match it in those terms.
Saying Vine was ahead of its time is like saying Digg or MySpace was ahead of its time. No it was at the precipice and just horribly failed to manage its growth and responding to competitors
It had 200 million monthly active users at peak, which is a decent number but still smaller than every other major social network. I don't think that's entirely due to monetization. I think one of the factors is that a lot of people still had small data caps at the time it initially launched (2013), which is not really conducive to spontaneously consuming and uploading video from mobile phones.
Data caps may have played a part, but it would've been insignificant. They were 6s videos after all, and the average American was already using over 1GB of data even back then. Instagram had about the same amount of users at the time. And their willingness to give their users more flexibility than vine was by giving users 15s videos and the ability to monetise was all it took. It wasn't helped by twitter giving zero shits about vine. Which kinda makes sense, they had their own video thing going.
Vine didn't fail cos it wasn't popular, it failed cos Instagram saw what it was doing, copied it, and did it better.
Lol. Vine had good comedy skits in short form video. At no single point did I ever think to go to Instagram to get this. TikTok later on eventually took up from where Vine left.
Sure, you might not have, but the data suggests that Instagram allowing its users to post 15s videos and monetise them was what allowed them to poach a lot of vine users. This isn't me just talking shit, google "why did vine shut down" and I guarantee 95%+ of the results will say the same thing. Twitter got scooped in a big way. I mean, vine had more users than Instagram before it's downfall.
I don't get my info from Google. Also, my institutional memory serves as history after using Vine and watching the app disappear shortly afterwards as well as watching the evolution of Instagram from a photo sharing service to copying TikTok's features such as scrolling video content.
You seem to be making the mistake of correlating platform features with number of users. YouTube Shorts didn't take users from TikTok.
Instagram has never been known for short form video. It has always been for following celebrities.
"I don't get my info from Google". Then use your search engine of choice, "google" is basically genericized by now. The info is all there for you to read and not rely on your memory which is clearly wrong. And that's understandable. It's been 10yrs.
And you're not entirely right on the YouTube not stealing users from tiktok. YouTube shorts have more active users than tiktok does by a good margin. And tiktoks growth is slowing as a result. Again, these are all facts.
And finally, you're a fucking idiot. Why the fuck did Instagrams user count explode when they implemented short form video if that wasn't an attractive feature? Why is my Instagram feed 85%+ videos over pictures? I don't even follow celebrities on there, a handful of bands (be less than 10), the rest is friends but mainly content creators creating comedy. Be it memes, original creations, stand up clips, etc. Your memory is shit and fallible, the pages I literally just read are not as they are saved for posterity. I suggest you take my original suggestion and do some research on the topic instead of relying on your feelings before you make yourself look like a bigger idiot. Cos yeah, Instagram didn't take 100% of vines users, but it still took a fucking huge amount of them. The data is all out there, written way better than I can write it. Go read it and stop trying to act like you know all, cos after you read a bit, maybe you might change your tune...
Okay.