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Well if this is how you treat people who try to offer a shred of advice or compassion, then I hate to say it but maybe you deserve your circumstances. I can't help you more than this.
You know nothing about me, but you immediately come back with open hostility. I am only trying to offer the same advice that I would for the refugee and immigrant populations that the organization I work for supports.
Your priorities may not be the same as everyone else's, but there are people literally dying for their vote and it is just as awful to belittle that or say that they aren't prioritizing things that make a difference. Because it truly does to many people, and I would say it does now more than ever.
Gross. Nobody deserves to be homeless, even if they're being a dick.
c/iamatotalpieceofshit
Your advice is ludicrous for any single adult male anywhere in America right now, so your organization must not be very competent.
Suggesting that a single adult male, right now, in America, who already told you that they have serious injuries, should go seek a dangerous shelter which in all likelihood /will not shelter them/, which one either has to do on foot, or by wasting hours and hours searching the internet, for the aim of being able to vote, is absurd.
What should obviously be prioritized is the physical safety and security of the individual.
And I know this /because I used to work for a non profit helping the homeless/.
Telling an injured person to prioritize unsafe options that will waste their time, nearly certainly actually not result in acquiring shelter, for the purposes of being able to vote, that this priority is more important than /actually being alive/ is perfectly indicative of the attitude that many liberals have toward the homeless.
Which is basically: Do literally anything other than remedy the actual issue, you know, homelessness, which causes injuries, trauma, starvation. And then, if any of them give you any lip about this, tell them they deserve their predicament.
You are a ridiculous person. You are exactly like many of the people I used to at first work with, and then became reliant on until I realized hey could not help me: Wasting the time of the homeless with absurd hoops to jump through that can literally result in their death if your suggestions prove inadequate, and also they trust you and diligently follow their advice.
All I had to do was tell you that your advice was laughable, and be angry about how bad and useless this advice was, and you have now decided that I am rude and offensive to everyone trying to help and that I deserve my situation.
I am not in fact rude to everyone trying to help me.
I am rude to people who suggest I do things that /will endanger my health and safety/.
You are an awful human being.
If you do really work to aid the unhoused, you and your organization are morons. Your advice would be even /more/ ridiculous for immigrants and refugees who often cannot speak English well or at all.
Apologies if there was confusion, I just ask that you please read what I wrote again. I was not advocating staying at a shelter per se; if you have better accommodations, as a lot of unhoused residents do, then that's great. You are better off not staying in a shelter if you don't need it.
I was speaking more to the fact that organizations which run homeless shelters will typically offer additional levels of support when it comes to mail and ID procurement. They may be able to assist with getting you documentation directly, or may be able to help put you in contact with another organization that can.
But based on your responses so far, I'm guessing that's not something you'd be willing to do, so I'll just leave it here. You seem to know what's best for you, so good luck.
I’d put you up, man, but I’m moving in with my parents so I can pay off debt and maybe, MAYBE save enough to buy my own house someday.
I appreciate the sentiment, and I completely understand your situation.
By basically dumb luck, I managed to wander past a shoddy low rent motel ... that offers monthly leases.
Its got a comfy bed, a fridge, a microwave, a working toilet and tub, and most importantly, I can afford it.
Knowing that there is /somewhere/ I can afford to stay at, and will not have to figure out some new place to stay every few weeks is a massive improvement.
The near constant state of mortal panic is now lowering. All I have to do is basically not talk to anyone else who stays at this place.
/Now/ I can finally start to figure out how to replace my Drivers License and other important identifying documents, as most of those got stolen from me months ago at a shelter in another state.
I am very glad to hear that. Living space anxiety is the absolute worst.
It truly seems that nearly no one who has not been homeless can understand what being homeless does to you.
Oh well, at least if I survive this long term I can actually justifiably laugh until I pass out from people who have nervous breakdowns over the most unimportant first world problems imaginable.