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The people who want to spite Biden's genocidal support by not voting for him don't realize that the alternative is a fascist dictator who actively relishes in the prospect of killing brown people. If you think Biden's treatment of the Gazan war is bad, wait til you see Trump.
Same with the Ukrainian war. If Biden is milquetoast, Trump will guarantee your toast is forever black and inedible.
It's because those people that think that don't actually care about brown people. Nobody who actually cares about Palestine is trying to vote Trump in. Not a single one. It's all a smoke screen. We've seen it before same thing happened in 2016. Same players same game.
Why don't democrats just play it safe and run just about anyone who isn't Biden?
The vast majority of conservatives will never vote for a democrat. The best democrats can do is try to retain support of independents who have no problem voting 3rd party or even conservative if they feel disenfranchised by the democratic party.
Why would they feel disenfranchised by Biden? Who are these hypothetical people that would piss away their vote on a 3rd party because Biden did all of the things he said he would do. Supporting Israel is literally part of being POTUS. Every single POTUS has been an Israel supporter.
I mean yes they have always had the support of the US government, they've also historically not been quite as openly genocidal.
What the fuck are you even talking about? Andrew Jackson was an actual president that directly initiated the forced ethnic cleansing of the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee, and Seminoles.
And that's just a taste of shit like that. You need to get your head out of your ass.
Well aren't you a ray of sunshine. Did you actually read my post or did you just decide I needed to be attacked for things I didn't say?
If you go back and read the context, I'm saying we have had bipartisan support for Israel for many years, but this year they've gotten significantly more genocidal than they normally are.
I didn't say a fucking thing about what we did or didn't do in the 1800s. Jackson was also a strong proponent of slavery, He was a well well-rounded bell end.. Just because we were fuck wads in the 1800s doesn't mean we need to openly support other people by giving them boatloads of money and guns so they can go and exterminate all the civilians they don't like.
If you decide you still want to come at me I'm just going to block you.
I'm gonna ask my parents, both lifelong Republicans, if they'll vote Trump again. I'm pretty sure after Jan 6 they won't. Prior to that I would have agreed with you but I'm not sure now
They won't, because they have an entire presidential term in two vice presidential terms worth of relationship with him. They've got a lot invested in him and they're not about to just walk away from that.
Gods I wish they would. The DNC represents progressives like North Korea represents democracy
People like you want to have your cake and eat it too. During the primaries you swear up and down we should be okay with Biden winning the primaries because we can push him to the left. Then when that turns out not to be true you say we need to vote for him anyway.
You can't keep doing this. You're liars. You're gaslighters. You're enablers of the Republican party. You are the bad guys. You need to change.
By the time the election comes we might already be in WW3 😒