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Who should 'own' magazines? Federated infrastructure but user sovereignty: a “third way” between federated and P2P networks? (kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago by Sam_uk@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social
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At the moment the server owner effectively 'owns' magazines & communities. Is that the right balance of power? What happens when servers go offline, or server admins go rogue?

In a world where both users and magazines had public and private keys and magazine moderators had the tools to do off-site backups.

Could the magazine moderator then do an unassisted migration to a new place?

They revoke the key that gives the original server the right to host the magazine. They use the key to re-create it on a new server.

Somehow notify all the members the magazine of the new location. The users use their public keys to reclaim their identities and content.

Would that give mods too much power?

It all gets complicated fairly quickly! I think the Bluesky AT protocol is somewhat close to this model for user content, but doesn't really extend to 'community' scale content.

It falls short of a full confederal protocol

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[-] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

As the owner of a magazine, I do not want to do this. I don't want to be responsible for collecting data, storing it, and then shopping for a new place to set up homestead.

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

@HandsHurtLoL Arguably you're not the magazine owner. The server admin is. That's kind of my point.

[-] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I understand your larger point that technically Ernest could pull the plug on kbin.social (the instance my magazine is on) and we lose it all. In that sense, he is sole proprietor and owner of all the magazines on this instance. I get that point.

But to your point about who is going to pick up and move the magazine to a different instance, that's me or one of my colleagues on my mod team. I'm listed as the owner of the magazine, and until the next core rollout, I technically have higher privileges than the rest of the mod team (which I didn't expect nor ask for).

I'm responding to your idea here, which is if our instance ever got the plug pulled on it, I personally will not take the time to uproot the data from the magazine and set up shop elsewhere.

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