[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

@Chozo I wonder if this bodes well for Kbin/Lemmy? Arguably their model is more about content than social relationships.

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At the moment the server owner effectively 'owns' magazines & communities. Is that the right balance of power? What happens when servers go offline, or server admins go rogue?

In a world where both users and magazines had public and private keys and magazine moderators had the tools to do off-site backups.

Could the magazine moderator then do an unassisted migration to a new place?

They revoke the key that gives the original server the right to host the magazine. They use the key to re-create it on a new server.

Somehow notify all the members the magazine of the new location. The users use their public keys to reclaim their identities and content.

Would that give mods too much power?

It all gets complicated fairly quickly! I think the Bluesky AT protocol is somewhat close to this model for user content, but doesn't really extend to 'community' scale content.

It falls short of a full confederal protocol

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I stuck a service on https://kbin.world that redirects you based on a IP lookup for your country. In descending order it tries to;

  • If there is a kbin instance for your country it redirects you there (Just Poland for now!)

  • If you have a feddit instance for your country it redirects you to the most appropriate magazine on that instance, within kbin.social eg Germany

  • If you have a large national community on another Lemmy instance it redirects you there, again within kbin.social (eg Brasil)

For the ones I haven't got around to it redirects you to kbin.social homepage

It could be broken down to regions too. As more national or regional kbin instances emerge I'll replace the existing feddit/other sites.

I did a bit of testing with Pingdom and it seems to work

In the process I noticed that New Zealand and Japan feddit instances won't load for some reason. Any idea why?

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

@fantasy95 The threadiverse. I made an aggregator to suit my tastes https://fledd.it/

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@FaceDeer Do we? Or do we have lots of small groups in the same space?

It does seemthat Mastodon culture is different to Threadiverse culture. I'm OK with that, Mastodon is a little earnest for my tastes. It would be nice if we could keep the worst of Reddit out of here with robust moderation

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However, when reddit crapped the bed, by comparison, the threadiverse basically didn’t have an established culture. There was a handful of lemmy instances (we were one of them), but the only one of notable size was lemmy.ml. kbin didn’t even exist in any meaningful way until a couple of months before reddit died.

So, when reddit died, there was no established culture. Instead, people brought reddit culture with them, and reddit culture, because of lax admins, was much more tolerant of hate speech than microfedi. And so, people who are “reddit people” more than “fediverse people” set up lemmy and kbin instances, and brought those reddit norms with them.

So then, you get instances like blahaj and beehaw that are threadiverse instances, but have the “old school” microfedi approach to bigotry. We smash it down hard at the first hint of seeing it, but most of the instances we federate with don’t attack it so aggressively.

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The Fedifinder dev seems interested in adding this as a web service https://github.com/lucahammer/fedifinder/issues/236 is using kbin to authorise a third party app possible yet?

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I didn't write it, but it seems good

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of this essay https://nexus.blacksky.network/zine/00000001/confederal-protocols I think Nostr get's much of that right.

@JoeClu

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

@JoeClu I think the protocol gets a lot right. It's just a shame all the users are alt-right.

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@bedrooms Arguably Lemmy.world is the 'main instance these days https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse But I agree kbin is the better choice.

@plantmoretrees @XiozTzu

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[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@Schluchtschiss

Only 'trusted' users can upload to r/pics. Here's a pic of John Oliver hiding in https://kbin.social/m/johnoliver

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@entropicdrift Yeah good luck exporting your siberian wheat through broken supply chains in a conflict zone.

@livus @CanadaPlus

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

@Litigant-In-Person@kbin.social

Yeah, but it's not that consequential whether you choose a good Lemmy instance or a good Kbin instance.

As a Kbin Stan I prefer this interface, the community is new, without some of the Tankie baggage/ perception of Lemmy.

@losttourist @static

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Wikipedia is doing a thing: https://wts2.wt.social ActivityPub is on the roadmap apparently. @swnt

[-] Sam_uk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@ghostalmedia

AFAIK CDN's don't do much to help with logged in traffic. Only users who are not logged in. Kbin.social is on Fastly infrastructure, so it's likely to scale comparatively well.

It's probably not desirable for it to get too big, but it should be able to absorb waves of Redditors who will then move on to other instances hopefully.

@AskThinkingTim @WhatThaFudge

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It's still tiny numbers in the scheme of things, but also quite a big number for a site that had ~30 users this time last month.

Kbin stats https://kbin.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Lemmy + Kbin https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse

Raw https://kbin.social/nodeinfo/2.0

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