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He said they used AI to fake it. I don’t know if they did or not, but I feel like that’s going to be the new, “someone hacked my phone and posted that,” any time someone gets caught saying something dumb.
I've been thinking about that lately. Of course they'll muddy the waters. Trumps 'fake news' bullshit already has, where he acts like major news organizations just wholesale make up stories. The result of deep fakes will be what we already have, but worse, where MAGA types believe anything negative about Democrats, no matter how ridiculous it seems under analysis, and refuse to believe anything negative about Republicans, saying it's 'fake'.
Which in turn allows them to now, more strongly forever deny whatever they want.
So on top of not being able to convince them with facts, you also won't be able to convince them that the facts are facts... so then how do we pull these idiots away from the cliff's edge?
Let em jump? I mean, if auntie Ethel wants to cure her COVID with bleach injections and a UV light up the arse, I don't see what we can do to save her
If they'd just stay at their houses and shut the fuck up, I'd say let them live in whatever false reality they want. Problem is, they're getting more violent and increasingly believing that they need to enforce their false realities on the rest of us.
Facts weren’t the answer for that group to begin with, so not much is changing for them.
The thing is AI voices are only good enough to trick most listeners. If you know what to listen for, or can dissect the audio professionally, it's trivial to fact check.
There has always been image/audio doctoring. Any reputable news source can reasonably identify these things.
Until they train the AI against those artificats and it becomes undistinguishable. It either already exists or will soon, no doubt state actors are excited about the possibilities for foreign intelligence.
They do adversarial training with those tools. It begins to be an arms race between detectors and trainers.. 🫤
The thing is, character matters. I have no doubt Roger Stone is capable of saying those things. Zero doubt.
If someone did this with, say Obama, would anyone believe it?
Oh absolutely, off the top of my head I'd say 20-35% of America.
You can't honestly believe that a significant portion of Americans would easily believe such a falsehood, Kenya?
Roger Stone has also previously claimed deepfakes for things he was recorded saying on video from a professional documentary crew: https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-claims-video-of-him-calling-for-violence-are-deep-fake-videos
He already cried wolf.