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According to Israel bombing hospitals and refugee camps is legitimate defense. They clearly deserve each other.
Imagine thinking millions of people "deserve" to be used as pawns and cannon fodder by their own governments as well as the international "community".. 🤢
Here's a guy that doesn't want murderers to face consequences for their actions.
It's pretty well established that Hamas used those places, making them valid military targets. If you want to be pissed at anyone over them being hit, be pissed at Hamas.
No. No it's not. At all. Israel went back on the hospital tunnel claims because they couldn't fabricate enough "evidence". Many, many other strikes are exactly the same. They bomb and kill dozens on the hunch there is one militant. That's a war crime no matter what side you are on, unless you are on the side of genocide and death.
That's really not true based on the publicly available information I've seen.
You haven't seen enough, then.They fully and openly admit there wasn't weapons or a tunnel used by hamas there now.
Citation? My understanding is that when there was skepticism regarding whether the tunnels connected to the hospital, the IDF released 360° video footage of them walking around in it to address it. I've seen stashes of weapons thrown behind MRI machines, there's been accounts from patients that Hamas members were in the hospital, there's footage of Hamas taking hostages into the hospitals, RPGs being fired from in front of them and then the soldiers run into the hospitals, and I'm pretty sure they have a confession from hospital management. I believe there's even more evidence, but that's all that I'm remembering at the moment.
Yeah sorry we killed you in hospital bro but we think some like, really bad guys were there. So really if you think about it, it's all their fault.
Yeah sorry we blew up the school bro but we we think some like, really bad guys were there. So really if you think about it, it's all their fault.
Yeah sorry we blew up the refugee camp bro but...
On and on and on for like 100 days now as the majority of Gaza has been flattened and 22k+ people have died, mostly innocents. Nobody believes you. This. Shit. Doesn't. Work. Try arguing something else for God's sake.
I have no idea about the hospitals and refugee camps. I just know 20,000 Palestinians have died, mostly women and children, and including dozens of journalists and aid workers.
If Israel wants to avoid civilian casualties, they should pass the message along to the Israeli army.
The border towns had armed security and IDF soldiers lived within them. Does that make them legitimate targets as well?
You're conflating security guards with IDF forces inappropriately. You might have a point given that the IDF is a citizen army, however, many of the people slaughtered that day were not even Israeli. Hamas never bothered to check who was and was not a soldier. They just fired blindly at civilian vehicles driving by, raped and massacred an EDM festival.
The IDF uses military bases instead for that sort of thing. These were civilians, many of whom championed pro-Palestinian causes.
If you haven't seen it, I encourage you to watch October 7th footage, the IDF has it uncensored on their YouTube channel, after watching it my sympathy for Palestine evaporated.
Same. And Hamas put those tunnels under public infrastructure on purpose and with the public's knowledge.
I get it: how else were they supposed to fight back against illegal occupation?
Well, they definitely should not have done a bunch of mass shootings of civilians at concerts and stuff. This thread baffles me. What did they think the response would be?
Now the whole place is condemned because of the tunnels, which Israel has every right to destroy now, since they represent the means of Hamas' offensive capabilities.
A permanent state of war. Bafflingly, this is what they wanted, this is what they predicted, and this is what the Palestinian public overwhelmingly supports. Except the neighboring Arab states aren't going to war for them like they wanted, it seems they learned their historical lessons that Palestine hasn't.
They provoked a predictable response and then scream in the media that Israel isn't playing fair, yet again. Evidently they want a situation where they can launch bloody hordes of civilian murdering and raping soldiers and Israel's hands are bound preventing them from responding meaningfully. They want permanent war, but only one they can fight, only war that favors them, and they're going to keep trying no matter how many times they lose.