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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Asking people to resign when you don't have the authority to do so isn't really redeeming, to me

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago
  • Person A is a little more senior in an organization than Person B, and Person A delegates some work to Person B.
  • Over time, there is some dispute over how well Person B is doing their job.
  • Person A asks Person B to resign.
  • Person B stays, and keeps getting paid, because they know Person A can't fire them.
  • Person B tweets out "I've been fired, donate here."

Is "Person A fired Person B" at all a fair characterization of that situation? I don't see any way someone who claims they were fired and asks for money while still drawing a paycheck is in the right -- they're just straight-up lying.

There's room to criticize Robinson for not handling a difficult situation particularly well (and for not setting up a better group structure in the first place), but this is wildly different than "he fired employees for unionizing." There's was certainly no effort to unionize, in any case.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

This is all based off a single, extremely badly written diatribe, right? I truly don't understand why one screed suddenly has more weight than any other screed, particularly when it's quite clear it's just NJR's friend defending their friend. The best I'm willing to grant is that it sure sounds like every single person involved in the dispute is insufferable and shouldn't be published or paid attention to.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

extremely badly written diatribe

Come on. It posts receipts, names names, and is a conventionally-formatted narrative.

As for who's credible here: I'm sure not going with the people who (at minimum) lied about being fired so they could grift money over twitter. They also declined to be interviewed for the article and never piped up to dispute the key "not actually fired" part despite continuing to tweet about the situation years after the fact.

it sure sounds like every single person involved in the dispute is insufferable and shouldn't be published or paid attention to

One reason "only me and my five online friends are True Leftists" is so popular is that being dismissive is easy. Mao and Stalin worked closely with plenty of leftists who didn't have perfect takes on everything, and even allied for a time with reactionaries like the KMT and U.S. That's the reality of a mass movement, not writing off people who are closer to you than probably 95% of the U.S. population.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I guess it's conventionally formatted, in that it's in paragraph format, but it sure spends a huge amount of time listing all the mean things people have said about the author's friend that aren't really relevant, and if it gets to actual receipt-posting it's so far down the narrative that anybody who isn't already fully on board with NJR is not likely to make it that far. Regardless, nobody here is Mao or Stalin, none of us are leading parties with influence or power in our western hellholes. Beyond that, is NJR read by anybody not on the left? Is he bringing people into the left? Does anybody take him seriously, even before the "unionization" flap? Does a left movement need run-of-the-mill western chauvinists speaking for it?

This is a site for shitposting, and even if it were a site for organizing then NJR's influence and utility would be in doubt.

They also declined to be interviewed for the article and never piped up to dispute the key "not actually fired" part despite continuing to tweet about the situation years after the fact.

No kidding, the people who are mad at NJR didn't want to be interviewed by NJR's personal friend writing a defense of NJR? Damn, that's wild huh

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

if it gets to actual receipt-posting

So you didn't even read it. No investigation, no right to speak.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Like I said, it's a poorly written, way too long screed. Hope the NJR fan club readings of the thing go well though!

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

It's OK to not read something, it's ridiculous to not read something then write several paragraph or longer comments adamantly insisting you're right about it. Do some self-crit.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Love to read something written by somebody's friend in defense of that friend and immediately assume it's 100% correct and factual and get mad at people who exercise a little bit more discretion

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

smuglord

Shut the fuck up. You didn't read it, you don't get to talk about its content. I've spoonfed you some of it (and some signs it's credible) but you ignored that, too, so just shut the fuck up.

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