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What are some of the best mini-games youve played? (games inside games) (lemm.ee)

submitted 10 months ago by tsonfeir@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world

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I recently played Alien Isolation, and I noticed all of the “hacking” she does on doors and computers are different types of games, like press the button at the right time, or match the images within a timer, etc.

A lot of games have these mini-games, and I was wondering which you think are the best? Or at least, didn’t get old fast?

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[-] swolf@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

Gwent!

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

It suffers the same problem every trading card game does: if you don't have the best cards, you lose. Skill and strategy and even luck are nothing compared to just having better cards.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

IMO pay-to-win mechanics work really well for a game-within-a-game since rather than exploiting the player for money, they are exploiting the player character for effort, which can lead you to go on more epic quests

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Personally I found it really annoying that halfway through the game when I decided to give gwent a go, i got absolutely trashed and was basically tole to go back to the beginning of the game and redo a bunch of areas I'd already spent too much time in.

Not to mention none of the gwent quests were epic in the slightest. They were literally "play these people, if you win you get a card".

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I spent more time playing gwent then playing the Witcher.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That's a really superficial take. For instance in MTG every format has "must have" cards, like fetchlands or shock lands (or dual lands), but beyond that there's no "best" cards. There are "meta" cards that go into a specific meta deck and when you have one meta deck playing against another that's when skill and strategy come into play. And it's not like you must build a meta deck to play, you can build anti-meta decks or lab out a completely new meta deck. The problem is that such a level of deck building skills go way beyond what 99% of players are capable of doing. Even some of the best players in the world suck at deck building, because is an entirely different skillset to playing the game.

But it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The modern meta looks very different to when I got into MTG 10+ years ago. Some are still around in some form, like regular Tron turned into mono-g tron and burn turned into boros burn. But the bans on Twin and Pod have killed those decks while Jund and Affinity have dropped out of the meta. In those place we have brand new decks like amulet titan or 5c Omnath. Somewhere in that timeframe we also got Eggs that was literally jank cards thrown into a pile of meta-defining solitaire playing, and then it got banned for being too boring.

You can get meta cards to build a meta deck but you can't explicitly buy "best" cards because a new combination of "bad" cards can create a meta deck and then those become the new "best" cards.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

What happens when a person without any good meta cards plays a person who has good meta cards?

The one with the better cards wins.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

The one with a better deck wins. If a homebrew deck goes against a meta deck then it's likely the meta deck wins, but if you homebrew a deck with meta cards vs homebrewing without meta cards it comes down to how well the deck is built. A homebrew with all the meta cards but without any game plan or poor mana source distribution is going to do worse than a homebrew without meta cards, but with a clear plan and cards that support that plan.

People not building their own decks and instead just copying meta decks is another discussion.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I disagree but I understand you... I don't know why it didn't click for me as an old Yu-Gi-Oh! Player (that is the only card game I have ever played... And several minutes of a "Duel Master" card game for GBA... Perhaps that one would trigger some old memories for some it was based on an anime too).