yeah honestly I just have a kneejerk negative reaction to phoenix because as someone from the polar tundras of the upper midwest I can't fathom living in a place that's hotter than comfortable (to me anyhow) like 7 months out of the year and has no water. And I've had family move there even, I just don't see the appeal at all, even as brutal as our winters can be up here. but the sprawl also didn't help my opinion lol

I'm glad the transit is still expanding tho. That southern extension looks significant!