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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

Haven't run into a game yet that doesn't run on Linux when using Proton. 👌

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

The Finals works on Linux!

In other news, I got a message saying I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

That's gotta be rectifiable somehow. Did you contact some sort of support?

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It said I could reach out to support but I was hopping off and it didn't give me any links or anything actionable in the message. So I guess I can go hunt down the support info and complain.

If I don't get unbanned, oh well. I guess I won't play that game anymore. Its not like I spent any money on it and my time invested in about an hour at this point.

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

That ban also pop up on your steam account? Because if it does that can screw you in other games if they have community servers.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux

How is that not illegal?

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I know that's a turn-of-phrase but it's their game so they can do what they want.

It probably trips some EAC flag because it realizes something is "amiss". Id guess going through proton might behave a little differently and they think you are cheating or installing hacked dlls or something so they ban.

I know when other games have caught a wave of Linux users in bans they reverse them in time.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

If someone buys a product from you, you shouln’t be able to deny them from using it based on arbitrary criteria without a refund.

[-] duffkiligan@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Don’t worry, they refunded his $0 for the free game.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, it’s free? Then never mind.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 21 points 10 months ago

Most of the games not running today would run perfectly if they did not have some bullshit anti-cheat implemented (Easy Anti-Cheat is I think the worst offender here).

Source: personal experience checking ProtonDB for games I want to play

[-] thoughtorgan@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unfortunately there's a cheating plague right now. It's never been easier to cheat. It's a huge problem in any competitive shooter. If you want your game to be successful, you need decent anti cheat.

I can't blame the devs for using a plug and play solution.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I understand developers needs for decent Anti-Cheat and I am not faulting them for using Anti-Cheat systems in general.

But Kernel level Anti-Cheats should not exist. No application should ever have this level of access over your entire PC. You have no idea what these Anti-Cheats are doing, you have no idea what data they are collecting and sending to whom and you have no idea what kind of security flaws they introduce. For all you know every password you type on your computer is shared with the companies using Kernel Level Anti-Cheat. Your PC might as well have no password anymore. If someone finds an exploit for Easy Anti-Cheat (or any of the other dozen Kernel level Anti-Cheats out there) and deploys a Virus over it then your best bet is turning religious because praying for divine intervention would be more effective than any Anti-Virus software.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Huh? Easy Anti-Cheat is the one that actually works for me on Linux.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 4 points 10 months ago

see my reply to another comment here. I mentioned EAC simply because most games use it and don't enable the required flag for Linux support.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Ah, TIL! Thanks :]

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Battlebit Remastered ran fine with EZ anti-cheat through steam on Mint 21.3, with no exra steps required, just this week. Did something get fixed, or was I just lucky?

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 10 months ago

iirc Easy-Anticheat has a sort of "Lite" mode that also runs on Linux, enabling it makes the games work with Proton but iirc degrades the Anticheat capabilities on those Systems. Because the Linux Anticheat isn't as effective (and because it's an Opt-In) most games don't use it.

Talking a lot out of my ass here but I think that's how it was explained back when they made that change.

[-] flamingos@ukfli.uk 11 points 10 months ago

The only games that give me any trouble are some Japanese VNs, which can be absolutely cursed for some reason. Like, massive tech juggernauts like Cyberpunk are click and play, but I've spent hours getting books-with-PNGs working.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago

That's because their code quality is usually an absolute dumpster fire that only works if Wine exactly replicates obscure Windows bugs.

[-] knorke3@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

the one i am the most sad about is magicka 1 - great game but getting it to run on linux is (as far as i've found so far) pretty much impossible.

Won't claim that it runs all that great on windows either though - getting through a chapter without crashing is rarer than i'd like it to be...

[-] achilleas90@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I recently heard about this. I used to play it. I searched on the steam discussion page and there is a fan patch that fixes all the crashes. It is on github. I found it for you. Try this. https://github.com/pj1234678/MagickaFix

[-] knorke3@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

was aware of it but it sadly doesn't run on linux (at least not after me doing trial and error for 4 hours) and i felt the comparison to the unmodded one on windows fairer under these circumstances - thanks for trying to help though :)

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Destiny 2 still won't work, and Simracing is still a no go.

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

The simracing part is a real bummer. That's the only reason I'm still on Win.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That just means you can't buy 12 dlc to unlock the seasons, dungeons, raids, and whatever the hell else they're paywalling. Destiny got enshittified.

[-] SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 10 months ago

I recommend warframe as a destiny alternative. But Beware! if you like the game you may sink thousands of hours into it

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Ha, jokes on you, already Legend rank 3. ~I have no life.~

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

My problem is that I enjoy specific multiplayer games. League, Val, Finals. Those are the three right now and riot specifically seems a tad disinterested in Linux. Sadge.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

League is owned by Tencent who is specifically interested in using the software for the benefit of the Chinese government as is mandatory for them. They don't want you using an OS with actual security. Heck, they don't even want you to see a skin or splash art that hasn't been approved by their government!

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

The anti cheat in league is literally a rootkit.

When it came out there was an outcry and their statement was basically "okay okay, so its a rootkit. But guys, you can trust us! We're totally not going to do anything nefarious with it!"

I can't believe people still play that shit.

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago

You mean Vanguard, which was announced but isn't actually in the game yet. Their plan is to add it late February or early March. We don't actually know any details about the implementation except that it won't be used in the macOS version.

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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago

There are a couple, but I'm spoiled for choice with great games so the convenience of being able to run something on my Steam Deck means that the few that don't run just drop to the bottom of the backlog. Proton is really a brilliant feat of engineering.

[-] firecat@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Genshin Impact, anticheat thibjs you're cheating, blocked until fixed. Happens every update.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
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[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

As a novice, how does one use proton, and can I install StarCraft 2

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You install it from within Steam, ~~or using flatpak if you're installing Steam via flatpak~~ [Proton on flatpak has reached EOL, try installing via Steam instead]. Then in settings you set it so every game uses the Proton compatibility layer, or whatever it's called. You don't have to do it per game, it's a global setting (as well as a setting for each game if you prefer).

I can't answer for a specific game though, you'd have to simply try it out or check a database which has info on games that can run using Proton. I don't know the site from memory.**

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thanks for the info!

On Eindows, StarCraft 2 comes from the Blizzard battle.net launcher.

I’m curious to know if I get a steam deck if I can play non steam games. I don’t really want to install windows on it.

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 10 months ago

For me it's mostly games that work for everyone else on Linux.

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[-] someacnt_@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, some games do not work. Because they do not work on Windows as well. Looking at you, ksp 2 🤦‍♂️

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's such a shame about KSP 2. I was so hyped when I saw it was announced, then it all turned to shiz.

[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I pretty much only have issues with ea stuff. I was playing it takes two, and it was like 50/50 if it would work for me. It always worked for my friend on windows.

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