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[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

  1. There's more than three animals that you can eat.

  2. You don't even eat all 80000 of those plants.

  3. Plants make excellent side dishes, unfortunately I can't spend a third of my day shoveling quinoa and lentils by the bucket load just to get enough protein, so meat it is.

I cut beef out of my diet almost entirely, both because it's unsustainable for the ecology (cattle require more resources per pound than any other animal) and because red meat isn't as good for you. Also it's expensive.

[-] r1veRRR@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

The meme is questionable, no argument (aren't most?)

But point 3 is just straight up wrong.

  • There's vegan body builders, including some that have literally never eaten a single piece of meat.
  • There's also a SIGNIFICANT difference between "enough protein to be healthy" and "enough protein for my entirely optional hobby".
  • 90% of the (wannabe) body builders I know still supplement with artificial proteins (powders, shakes, bars, etc.). You could do the same with vegan sources
  • Most people also forgo taste pleasure anyway, eating just rice and chicken, or plain greek joghurt. At that point, might as well eat a block of Tofu
[-] abraxas@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Counterpoint. Nutritionists (many, not all) tend to agree that protein is under-represented in the average non-plant-based diet already, and the body processes plant protein at 50-67% effectiveness compared to a similar amount of animal protein. And people with particular common medical issues have nutritional need for higher protein amounts. My wife's nutritionist wants her at 100-120g protein per day, counting plant proteins at 50% (so 240g if plant). Her food intake is about 12-1500kcal.

I challenge you to find a healthy way to to hit 180-240g of protein at a reasonable calorie intake. The best I can find is about 20 to 1 (which would be 3600 calories of high-protein meals to hit 180g). Or she could eat one 600cal steak and then whatever else she plans on in the day.

More importantly, my doctor wants me around the same, if only 100g. But I don't want to eat 3000calories a day.

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