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Trump? Biden? No thanks as voter interest in 2024 is already waning
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Gotta love the apathy propaganda.
That’s what most of the political articles posted seem to be. It’s always one of three things:
It feels like one big disinformation machine.
Or, read the article and see why so many don't feel like voting for either and then push the Dems to CHANGE.
And push them to change by participating. Primaries is where change happens. Vote for the person that aligns with your values, campaign for them, run yourself, etc. Skipping the general or voting for conservatives only backslides us further.
If Democrats magically banded together and all agreed to the most progressive forward thinking agenda possible, not a single thing would happen because the GOP would block it. What happened the last time the Democrats had both chambers of Congress and the White House? They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation that improved the lives of millions. We don't just need the Democrats to change, we need to put them in a position where they can make changes as well.
You mean like '16 primary where they were so threatened by an actual progressive that they intentionally and willfully took steps to ensure he could never compete with Hilary? That primary?
I keep hearing this repeated ad nauseum yet I've never actually seen someone articulate what those steps were. Bernie was on every single primary ballot. The only steps that needed to be taken by voters was to vote for him rather than Hillary. I voted for Bernie in '16. No one had a single fucking excuse to vote for Hillary over him, yet they did, in droves. It was a failure of voters that she won.
they cut access to the voter database
they screwed with the debate schedule
the NH primary, for example, sanders won 60% of the popular vote, super delegates ignored that
How about the ‘20 primary where he started as the front runner and still lost?
Or do you just wanna relitigate 2016 forever?
Romneycare? The largest transfer of money to the health insurance industry?
I too would prefer a public option or single payer system that a lot of democrats support, but again, conservatives obstruct at every opportunity. Just like they did with the affordable care act.
Not a single person has been able to articulate how having more Republicans in power results in the positive change they supposedly support. I know that actual argument is "they'll destroy everything and we'll rebuild from the ashes" but they refuse to say that because it shows what childish assholes they are.
California has a bullet proof democrat super majority and they can't pass single payer or livable wage either. And when they all take money from the same capitalists they have no intent on representing the working class.
Running for president oneself is obviously off the table. As far as voting for the person that aligns with my values... None of them do. I'll be voting for the other races on the ballot, because my vote in the primary and general elections will be worthless.
I did read it. It's hot garbage meant to reduce voter turnout.