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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

they want the benefits of living in our society but they don’t want to pay any of the costs

Same tbh, at least in the sense of wanting to be allowed to exist by default.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

The difference is that we understand that real change needs to be ushered in for that to happen, while they just bury their heads in the sand and pretend it already did.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah. To me it's more sad than funny though, I feel like they probably just want to feel like they have a little control over their lives and like they don't exist in the oppressive circumstances we objectively do, and there just isn't much hope that isn't fake.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Except they want much more than that. For instance they want every single benefit that you pay taxes for, but they don't want to pay the taxes. It's not that they all want to go live off grid and be their own person, they want to do everything you do and have everything you have, but they don't feel like they should have to pay for it.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

You could be right, I don't actually know any of these people or frequent their discussion spaces, but the memes I'm seeing here including this one seem to reflect anxiety about the sorts of things poor people have to stress about. Like why would someone be begging for the internet to tell them how to make the electric company give them free electricity, unless they are really going through it?

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I've watched a few trials of these guys because they're often entertaining. Most don't strike me as people struggling to make ends meet. They seem like self-entitled people who think they've discovered a loophole that gets them out of paying for things or suffering repercussions for their actions. Like they'll be fighting a ticket for driving without a license or registration and their argument is that they aren't constrained by those laws, and oh by the way, the flag behind the judge has a fringe that means it's a naval court and doesn't have jurisdiction over their case.

Look up the trial of Darrell Brooks, the guy who drove through a crowd of people at a parade (I want to say Wisconsin?). He was a SovCit and he had all sorts arguments about why the court didn't have jurisdiction over him.

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