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Hamas rejects Israel’s offer of two-month pause in Gaza fighting — Egyptian official
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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It's a shame they don't seem to care about Palestinian lives and Israel is expected to care more than they do. What's baffling to me is that they still enjoy widespread support, nearly three in four Palestinians approve of Hamas and October 7th. Evidently this situation is what they want? If Hamas were deposed and the hostages released, this war could be over tomorrow.
Yes Israel is supposed to care more about Palestinians than Hamas because Hamas is a terrorist organization an Israel is supposedly not that.
When Israel is literally starving them to death who do you think they will “support”. They literally have no choice. It’s either terrorists or the people killing you.
The more Palestinian civilians Hamas throw into the meat-grinder, the more upset Westerners, who no longer understand war nor believe in anything worth fighting for, become.
The more upset they become, the more they pressure their governments to put pressure on Israel.
Eventually, Israel is forced to let Hamas live.
Hamas recover, then unleash even more violence a few years down the line.
Rinse. Repeat.
I don't believe at this stage it is entirely Hamas doing the throwing. It seems Israel's RoE is shoot anything that moves.
why would Israel find Hamas then?
Pleased to know that Israel is not responsible for any of the killing. Got it
I don't think Israel is playing this game the way Hamas and other terrorists expected them to play it. Didn't Hezbollah fighters recently complain that Israel is now sometimes striking without warning them?
I think that Israel is playing the game exactly the way that Iran wants them to. The unreasonable level of violence against civilians is isolating Israel diplomatically and deeply tainting US reputation for relatively little cost.
Netanyahu is playing this game because his survival depends on it. As soon as war ends, he is kicked out and a bunch of judicial processes fall on him that he has been avoiding with his immunity. He has a vested interest in prolonging the conflict.
Hamas has a vested interest in prolonging the conflict too, because it means that they can be “freedom fighters” and “martyrs” instead of terrorists, and assassins, and means a reasonable amount of people flock to them. It also gives them legitimacy compared to the Palestinian Authority
Hamas and Oct 7 has ~72% approval from the Palestinian public, so I guess the destruction of Gaza is what most everyone wants? Baffling.
As for Bibi, his asymmetrical response is not jeopardizing US relations so much as he's jeopardizing Biden's second term. Trump will probably give Israel a blank check and may even want to push the big red missile button himself.
You don't understand that an imprisoned people would support people fighting their oppressors?
Hamas are not idiots, the response is exactly what they wanted. A whole new generation of resistance is being bombed into existence now and Israel is alienating its closest allies to do it, for Hamas that's a victory. They expected Israel to kill a bunch of random civilians in a brutal response to their attack, it's not a surprise for them.
Sure thousands of civilians under our rule died as our human shields from a war we provoked, our critical infrastructure was destroyed because we used it for war, thousands of our soldiers were killed, and we didn't achieve our stated objectives, but future generations are going to be really mad about it so I consider that a total victory.
-Hamas (not idiots)
Yes, Hamas is immoral and does idiotic things from our perspective but it's a mistake to believe that makes them idiots. They didn't just stumble into attacking Israel, and they weren't naive about how Israel would respond.