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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Both Google and Apple sell your data to the same companies. It's kinda the point of them having 'an ecosystem' (monopolized ofc).

All "privacy" efforts they made with their OSs were exclusively so third party apps can collect less data from you and have to buy data from Google/Apple.

[-] my_blackest_day@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Proof that Apple sell your data?

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

I am gonna guess they have their own ad setup. So they collect the data, setup profiles and whatnot. Then an advertiser can come and pay to use their system for targeted ads. Now does that count as "selling your data"? Not technically I guess. Google does exactly the same thing tho, right? I fail to see how they differ in any way. I suppose you can HOPE that apple cares about its reputation enough to handle your data carefully, but that is about it. Hopes and prayers.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

The op I replied to? Apples quarterly revenue statements? Their terms you agree to? Explicit 'Apple privacy policy' on the subject?

Both Apple and Google restrict third party app privacy not for your protection/increased privacy but to monopolize data collection. Eg Facebook vs Meta was a few years ago a fairly public fight.

But on both OSs you don't really have the option to restrict data collection from their services (on some Androids you can't even disable Google services, much less uninstall them). And Google also pays several billions per quarter to Apple to be the default search ~~data collection~~ engine.

It is true tho that companies differ a lot so the data collection is different too (the biggest difference is that Apple doesn't have that much need for user data since it isn't really in personalized ad business).

[-] jemorgan@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

You are delusional. It’s wild that you’re using sources like Apple’s privacy policy as a source when it directly contradicts what you’re claiming.

The authoritative sources that you listed explicitly state:

  • Apple only delivers ads in 3 places (App Store, Apple News, Stocks). Contrast this with Google, which delivers ads on virtually every app on every screen you interact with if you’ve got an Android phone.

  • Apple doesn’t share any personal data with third parties for advertising. They also don’t “sell” your data at all. They also don’t buy (or receive) any personal data from third parties to use for marketing. Again, contrast that with Google, whose entire business model is doing each of those things as invasively as possible.

I’m not claiming that Apple is “moral” or “ethical” or anything like that. But Apple’s profits are driven by them selling hardware, which means that if I’m someone who wants to buy hardware, their interests are at least somewhat aligned with mine. On the other hand, Google’s profits are driven by selling ads that are based on the most emotionally charged personal information they can gather. Any service they provide you is just bait for you to chew on so they can build the inventory they sell to advertisers.

Sorry, but you really need to lay of the crack my friend.

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