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[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thanks for writing this out, I can only disagree with how much exposition was actually necessary, as I think most people in the audience got the gists pretty quickly. I'm glad your wife has an opinion on it too, humans as a group are not monoliths.

Patriarchy is becoming less of a problem, the tricky part has been elevating women without weakening men. We're all still good at what we do, and should be allowed to do what we are good at if it's beneficial to society. I add that last part as a stfu to the dunce who talk-shouts "but what if they're good at murdering???".

The plot has serious holes in it, as is customary for a lot of silly Hollywood movies, hell I think a few of the holes were purposeful for the sake of absurdity. I'm not trying to make a silly movie seem deep and pretentious by enhancing writing mistakes, just laughing at the result whether intentional or not. Maybe it was a little hammy. Meh, as is customary for pop films, especially ones with retro-80s-90s styling.

I mean you've seen some of those movies from back in the day, right? All to say, your analysis is probably valid, so is mine, who cares, it was ridiculous and I laughed because of it.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

I was honestly hoping for something closer to Lego Movie which did an excellent job of balancing absurdity in the context of the toys with emotional moments about relationships while also being a feature length commercial. Trying to pass off obvious plot holes as being intentional when they weren't lampshaded is just giving the movie far more credit than it deserves.

Honestly there are a ton of movies that have the same basic approach of an oblivious person in the real world learning something fairly complex while balancing silly and emotional that were done so much better.

Patriarchy is becoming less of a problem, the tricky part has been elevating women without weakening men.

Speaking as a man, there should be zero concern about weakening men while elevating women. It is not a zero sum game and men who think that it is can go fuck themselves.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Cool. At least you gave it a shot, and from how much attention you paid the movie, seems like you at least appreciate how much work went into making it.

Not everyone's gonna be happy with a final product. That's all that can be said.

I'll point out, btw, your last paragraph was the primary thrust of the movie, in my opinion.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

The movie did a terrible job of conveying the last sentence in my opinion. I know that is what they were trying to convey, but I think the execution was terrible.

To be clear, I loved some parts of the movie and laughed a lot.

  • Stereotypical Barbie being the mom's toy instead of the child's was a fantastic idea!
  • Weird Barbie was the absolute best written character, but I don't get why she was the only self aware Barbie.
  • All the Kens singing 'I want to push you around' as a serenade was fucking hysterical for a bunch of reasons. I wish all of the humor was at that level!
  • The montage for moving between worlds was fantastic (the first time)
  • President Business or whatever they called him in this movie wanting to stand up for women was pretty clever, but clashes with the all male board in the movie when in reality where 5 of the 11 board members are women. They could have had women members who were over talked or something to reinforce the patriarchy being slightly more complex that 'all men all the time'.
  • Heck, even the Kens being sad about being second class citizens was a great idea and I think they just didn't make it clear enough even though they had scenes where they touched on it.

To be honest, I wouldn't have even written any of these posts if I had not had high hopes for the movie and just assumed it would be generic Hollywood pandering.

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