"Real Punk" only consists of the nyc/london Classic Punk scene and the 80's hardcore scene and its descendants. What is known by "Folk Punk" is nothing but Folk music with questionable real punk influence. When people try to argue that bands like Billy Bragg are not real punk, while saying that Johnny Hobo is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake punk as Billy Bragg (plus the adolescent cringe). Real punk sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake punk is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL PUNK are Amebix, Catharsis, Blackbird Raum (the only real punk band from the folk punk scene) and Man is the Bastard. Some examples of FAKE PUNK are Pat the Bunny, Chris Burrows and Defiance, Ohio PUNK BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO FOLK, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE