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submitted 7 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://hachyderm.io/users/maegul/statuses/111820598712013429

Is decentralised federated social media over engineered?

Can't get this brain fart out of my head.

What would the simplest, FOSS, alternative look like and would it be worth it?

Quick thoughts:

* FOSS platforms intended to be big single servers, but dedicated to ...
* Shared/Single Sign On
* Easy cross posting
* Enabling and building universal Multi-platform clients.
* Unlike email, supporting small servers

No duplication/federation/protocol required, just software.

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[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

No, that's fairly centralized too. I think I want a peer-to-peer social media protocol. Maybe more like torrents than email.

[-] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago

The fundamental problem is that all this data needs to be hosted somewhere. P2P systems have the issue of persistence: either posts only stick around as long as the people who posted them keep their server online, which is then a burden on anyone who wants to be active in the community, or everyone shares the responsibility for hosting, and then what happens if someone posts CP? Is it just mirrored across the entire P2P system, and each person has to individually root out the CP or just be okay with hosting CP?

Torrents work because you have to actively join a torrent. But discoverability is handled from the outside, through trackers. Trackers choose what they want to host.

Tor or really I2P are the closest equivalents, but they work because everything is encrypted going through them. It's a privacy thing. With social media, everything is public by design.

[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Persistence could be traded off for decentralization. Just like torrents' associated data are stored on people's computers (and the data dies if nobody is seeding) this kind of social media doesn't have to be permanently stored on a server.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Yea right. Me too I think. It’s out there and has been for a while. Just don’t think it’s ever taken off.

You might find this interesting: https://pfrazee.com/blog/why-not-p2p

[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago
[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Yea I didn't know before seeing that that one of the BlueSky devs (the author of the blog post) was heavily involved in p2p stuff (eg beaker browser).

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