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Yes, there are a lot of moderate conservatives that also paid attention in history class and know exactly what a fascist takeover looks like.
Fascists, libertarians and religious true believers are not always fond of each other. Their party is a coalition party, a function of our two party system. We gain nothing from ignoring this.
Think about it. Does it help them in any way when they paint us out as all rabid communists trying to destroy America? Not really, it just keeps their base dumb.
Us painting them out as all happy fascists similarly does nothing helpful for us, it's just circlejerking.
Listen to some actual conservatives, so you know what the opposition is up to. It won't hurt you, you won't get converted or something, so long as you actually believe in progress. Progress is the unifying element that ties our coalition together, while resistance to change is what ties theirs. Chris Christie fucking hated Trump though. Liz Cheney wants him in prison, and led the Jan 6th committee thing.
It's important though. We need a firm grasp on reality, not our own fantasies and oversimplified dream worlds, if we are actually going to put fascism down where it belongs with the massive numbers it will require. We need to focus on the truth, if we want our progress to go in any kind of helpful and healthy direction. I can't understate how important this is.
i use the term 'hold their nose' for this reason. i do not have as much hope in the critical-thinking arena of the general conservative population as you do. ...only by judging by their actual actions the last few cycles.
I don't think its as much "nose holding" as "spite voting". Conservatives are prickly and a number of them have been caught in embarrassing or damaging situations because of trump. Roe vs Wade overturn is a big one, for instance.
I don't think you seem to be aware of their actual actions as much as you have misconceptions about the actual statistics.
Do you honestly think 100% of them voted for Trump, even the first time around, before he showed his true colors? You got facts to back that up, or just circle-jerking beliefs based on your feelings?
Just the vote counts.
Show me some evidence. Don't just say it like Trump says his election was stolen. Quit acting like a fascist.
huh? you need evidence of public vote tallies? confusing
Yeah, when someone makes a claim like all repubs vote for a fascist, they should back it the fuck up. Unless that says-whatever-he-wants asshole is your role model or something.
Except you know you're just spewing bullshit like this is all a game, and not something that will result in actual, real life bloodshed and a worsening of all our lives, and maybe even the loss of our freedom to some militaristic, idiot-run future.
not voting for a not fascist is just as bad as directly voting for the fascist.
so youre a conservative who chose not to vote fascist, awesome... but not voting makes it tacitly so. .
if youre a conservative not voting this election, youre voting for fascism.
Your trolling is weak. Still waiting for that proof that all repubs voted for Trump, and so we should just shit on them all instead of trying to sway them with mature arguments.