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Why has the world gone to shit?
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this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2024
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You gotta return to your grade-school history textbooks, my friend. You can even read what the Framers wrote as they debated, at length, this very topic. It was the major sticking point between the populous states and the less populous states, and the bicameral legislature was the compromise.
Either way, I'm not concerned. You'll never get enough states to give up their representation so it'll never happen.
Grade school history books are literal hero worshiping whitewashed propaganda. And if that's what you're running on. You've been willingly duped hard.
For their day, the founders were definitely more democratic and forward thinking than many of their contemporaries. But they literally only gave white landowning males a voice in the government. Go look it up. Read on it. Their voice was the only voice that mattered. The voice of women. Didn't matter. The voice of non-landowning males white or otherwise didn't matter. We fought wars over this and had protests for the better part of the last several hundred years to get the progress we've got. It wasn't given to us by the founders LOL.
I'm not saying you're wrong about how originally only white male landowners were able to vote. But... That's completely irrelevant to the issue of apportioning representation. The bicameral legislature provides fair representation to every state, whether it's big or small. I don't see how that could be anything but beneficial to everyone, whether they be a white male landowner in California or a black female renter in Rhode Island.
Anyway, you aren't going to convince me that your folly is the best course for this nation. I'm not too concerned because, like I said, you'll never get enough states to go along with such a horrible plan to replace the Constitution.
Good day.
It never has. Not even before house was capped. Definitely never after it was. The electoral college and the Senate were literally concession to racist bigots. To imbalance the system in their favor. Literally, this is highschool, basic college level intro history.
It's hard to know whether someone is truly this ignorant or if this is a performative novelty account. I'm going with the latter. But just how easily possible it is for such a lack of information to exist. Still makes it frightening. There really are a ton of people out there operating on similar information deficits.
I'm not sure I'd trust non historians about history.
That's fine. As long as you don't trust the official histories either..
I trust them more than "alt" historians who use flimsy evidence.
No one should trust flimsy evidence. And yet many people trust the official histories with flimsy evidence. While ignoring or never being exposed to the true history. US history is full of such well-known falsifications.
Well you took the cowards way out. I was hoping you'd actually try to contend with any of the many points they made as it would be an interesting conversation but you had to lean on ad homs in the end.