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White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
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It's a victimless crime. I mean, making it illegal doesn't stop people from doing it.
I think once it gets to a point that nobody trusts AI porn, like how we don't trust photoshopped porn, then nobody would care anymore.
I hope you are joking. The target here is very much a victim. I don't want people fucking up my reputation just cus.
So someone photoshopped your face on another person is also illegal? What if someone talks about you doing a hypothetical sex act with their friends in private. Would that be illegal?
In all 3 instances, your reputation is fucked up. But which one is illegal? When does it end?
When they post it online in a way that is very hard for anyone to distinguish. If someone wants to jerk off to a made up image of me at home, I think that's kind of unhealthy, but not the biggest of issues. There are already cases of people committing suicide because someone generated some Ai and posted it online. It's fucked. At least with photoshop you had to know how to do some work. With this you can just go online, upload a picture and the backend tools do all the work.
First of all, what you think is unhealthy should stay in your home and not someone else's home. You don't get to decide what is unhealthy for everyone. Just yourself. It's people like you that think it's unhealthy for people to abort their babies that we lost Roe.
AI generated videos are currently distinguishable. It's quite easy to spot. All of the time it's posted on the site that specifically calls out its AI generated. So there is little confusion if your reputation is getting messed up.
With Photoshop you don't actually need any skills. It's all AI generated as well. It's actually zero skills. As a matter of fact, I have software that can take an AI generated image and then turn it into a video with just prompts to an AI generator.
But let's get back to what I said earlier. Who is actually hurt here?
People here are forgetting there is an entire industry full of models and actors (and producers and studios etc) whose sole purpose is to create nude images for money.
The porn industry. You know, the one that basically decides how we all consume media. This type of problem that Swift is having well be an enormous issue for porn.
It has to be stopped. It's not just about one popular celebrity.
Huh?
Porn decided VHS was the standard back in the day.
PlayStation decided DVD was afterwards.
And so and so forth
Well no, I don't think porn "decided" that. Beta was better quality, but more expensive and not "better" enough to warrant it for most home consumers. Sony also marketed it poorly, and capped beta tapes at 1hr.
Sure the porn industry sold home tapes, but they didn't sell them on VHS because "you'll use a VCR and like it by god," they sold them on VHS because most home video consumers had VCRs due to them being cheaper than beta machines/tapes. Easier to sell them a VHS tape for their VCR than to convince them they should have bought the beta machine.
CDs won over cassettes and carts because they are better, they sound better than tapes and (at the time it was believed) they last forever, and they could fit more on them than contemporary carts. They physically take up less space than the (video) cassettes too, which mattered in the days of shelving (instead of HDDs). It wasn't just because nintendo said "nah fam we like carts" and sony said "we like the shiny bagel," the consumer also liked the shiny bagel.
Now people have stopped buying disks and soon disks will stop being sold in favor of download/streaming only, this isn't because some shadowy they've "decided," it's because the people have decided not to pick up physical copies of disks anymore.
For the record, the biggest reason vhs beat Betamax was the same thing Sony has struggled with in later years.
They chose to keep the media format proprietary, while JVC opened the VHS format for any company to make. That's how VHS became more ubiquitous, and it's a similar story as to why minidisc never became mainstream, and memory sticks are gone.
Which arguably falls under "marketed poorly", but I think the added context helps
Yes that indeed does help, thanks. I should have mentioned that explicitly.
Who is actually getting hurt here?
the porn stars are loosing work possibly.
We still need their bodies for AI porn so they are actually fine. This is no different from stunt actors who we CGI faces to their work.
Your brain was at an early age.
Nah, I'm close to 50 and remembered a time when people had rights. Freedom to do what we want without government intervention. Hey, what I do in my own home does not concern you.
Nobody is physically getting hurt here.
Being a moron at 50 doesn't negate having brain damage at an early age. You can't possibly be this ignorant. There are more ways to be hurt than physically.
Oh we are calling names now. My apologies for thinking you were mature.
Please explain this moron. Besides physically, how would AI porn hurt someone?
You can very easily read the many many comments in this post for that information. But you won't, and you'll just ignore everything like you have been.
Do you realize that this sequence of comments from you is a demonstration of the fact that you have no reasoned position on this topic?
Seems ironic that you call me a moron and can't even come up with your own argument without other people's comments. Do you even have your own opinions?
The sad reality for commercial porn lovers like yourself is the industry is doomed anyway, when we start fixing the poverty problem and transitioning from a greed based society it'll be very hard to coerce women into forms of work like this. If we had a good UBI and housing program where people have access to resources to improve themselves and their material situation there aren't going to be many women that choose to get fucked in the ass for several unsexy hours so the crew can film from all the right angles.
You should probably join with the campaign to stop ai completely if you want to maintain a society where enough women find themselves desperate enough to do porn that it can sustain the industry - imagine if automation efficiency gains enabled localized manufacturing from locally sourced materials thus significantly lowering the cost of living for all! Even women in third world countries wouldn't be poor enough to need to join the commercial porn industry.
Yes sir if there's one industry we need to protect it's the one that uses poor and substance addicted women as sex objects to be exploited for capitalistic gain.
While I agree that we should have UBI and universal healthcare, your gross assumption that all women are "forced" into this trade because they lack funds is what I disagree with.
While some women are doing it for the money, some women are doing it because it's their own kink. Check out /gonewild. Most if not all those women are there showing off their bodies because they want to. No funds. No other reason except they want to share.
Again yes there are sex trafficked women in the porn industry. There should be more laws that help these women.
Fun story. I went to CES about 10 years ago and the AVN convention is next door and as a joke my workers and I went to check it out. I had the pleasure of talking to some of the actresses and some of them paid money to be there. It was such a great experience talking to them and seeing the humane side to porn. The women there generally love the craft.
Let me know when that happens
I've started already, learn about open source and creative commons if you want to start being part of the solution instead of the problem