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submitted 9 months ago by GreyShuck@feddit.uk to c/humanities@beehaw.org

In 1916, a trainee doctor befriended a wounded young soldier in a hospital in Nantes. André Breton was working in the neurological ward and reading Freud. Jacques Vaché was a war interpreter, moving across the front between the Allied positions and disrupting where he could; he once collected cast-off uniforms from different armies, including enemy forces, and sewed them together to make his own “neutral” costume. He sent Breton letters describing his “comatose apathy” and indifference to the conflict, though, he wrote, “I object to dying in wartime”.

Weeks after the Armistice, Vaché killed himself in a hotel room. Breton hailed him “the deserter from within” and one of the key inspirations for “The Surrealist Manifesto”, published in Paris in 1924.

This slim volume turned out to be the most influential artistic pronouncement of the century. Breton argued that rational realpolitik had created the catastrophe of the first world war. Championing the irrational, the subconscious, dream states — “pure psychic automatism” — he called for a revolution of the mind: “thought dictated in the absence of all control exercised by reason.”

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[-] frog@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I'll concede that the very best examples of AI-generated pieces, when given a sufficiently deep prompt by someone who knows what they're doing, may have more depth than the shallowest examples of traditional art. But it certainly doesn't have more depth than the most meaningful human-made artworks. And it's not representative of the typical output of AIs. Human-made art is almost always deeper, because the human has to make conscious choices about every single thing they include. AI doesn't do that, and most of the time, neither does the prompter.

And again, the same goes for commercially-driven art. You'll note in my previous comment I said "a lot of". There are some that stand out and have genuine lasting power... but the vast majority of it does not. It exists to sell a product, and is forgotten in a year or two.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In another thread, I've had a conversation about Dadaism vs. Impressionism... and by lucky happenstance, dropped by the recent !botart@lemmy.dbzer0.com post, so couldn't resist but try to mix it all a bit:

https://beehaw.org/comment/2262625

Now, on a scale from 0 to 10, how much depth would you give that prompt? And the output? I think the AI got it best at the first try, although nr.3 is not bad either, if it wasn't for the... watermarks? comments? (it's a lot of fun to mess with an AI's "subconscious")

PS: this one is great, I think I broke it 😂

https://beehaw.org/comment/2264660

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