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[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 291 points 2 years ago

Work on/build racecars. Some of it's very technical, but probably not the type you're asking about. Also a woman. I'm checking off all the abnormal demographics here. Right?

[-] techconsulnerd@programming.dev 84 points 2 years ago

We should normalize what you do. Woman can build racecars or do any other work a man can. Great work, keep it up!

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago

@techconsulnerd I agree!!! It's been a very, very slow process, but I have been seeing more women in motorsports, which is awesome. Even F1 has a new series F1 Academy, which is an all women series. I'm way too old, but if I was younger, I'd sure be trying to get in.

[-] persolb@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Male prostitute

/s

(Seriously, agree with you in general though)

[-] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, shouldn’t is more applicable for “male prostitute.” Really depends on the gig, and how closely the client examines your assets.

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[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As long as high physical strength is not required, I strongly agree. These days the need for that is becoming less and less unless you want to be a marine.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 years ago

You're conflating physical strength with gender, but when it comes to who can do the work, only one of those is relevant.

I think we're on the same page, I'm just pointing out that the statement "women can do any work a man can, as long as high physical strength is not required" is just as inaccurate as saying "all men can do work that requires high physical strength". As a man, I'll be the first to say there are a huge number of women who are more physically capable than me. Turns out, a task that requires high physical strength doesn't need a man, it needs a person with high physical strength.

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

I don't think you were replying to me, but objectively the average man, of similar size, is going to be stronger than me, in the brute force, or explosive force aspect. It's just an unfortunate fact of human genetics. Men typically have denser bones, ligaments, and tendons, muscle fiber, more muscle mass, and testosterone to help build and maintain all of it. Women are said to be something like 60% as strong as a man on average. HOWEVER, women typically have better stamina, longevity, are better at enduring trauma, etc.

I am by no means frail or weak, and am probably stronger than a lot, but I will never be as strong, or as lean as a man with equal work put toward it.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

There is no disagreement that, in the current day and age of the human species, men are biologically predisposed to be more physically capable on average. There is no contention about that.

The point I am making is that two bodies with similar bone density, muscle mass, testosterone, etc. are going to be physically capable of the same thing, regardless of their genders. The gender is a red herring, what matters is the capability of doing the work.

As I told the other commenter,

We have a history of giving jobs to men because we’ve conflated their gender with other capabilities, not because they actually are the most capable. But my point is, we’re smart enough as a species to not do that anymore.

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

But my point is, we’re smart enough as a species to not do that anymore.

Lol. Are we? Maybe it's just my small world but I don't see that at all. I encounter sexism CONSTANTLY. Hell, scroll down to the bottom of the comments on my main reply, it's right there for everyone to see.

The point I am making is that two bodies with similar bone density, muscle mass, testosterone, etc. are going to be physically capable of the same thing, regardless of their genders.

But gender does matter because one gender is predisposed to be bigger, stronger, have more testosterone, and has the ability to be stronger/build muscle more easily. I'd love to agree with you, that in a perfect world, gender didn't matter in brute strength, but it does. All things are not equal out of the box.

Now, as I have clearly proven, brute strength isn't everything, in fact most of the time it only means so much, but it's still there regardless. I think a more accurate statement would be something like "strength only gets you so far, capability is more important"

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Lol I meant it more in a "you're smart enough to stop leaving the milk out of the fridge, child!" kind of way. I agree sexism is still rampant, and I guess I'm implicitly saying people in the past are somehow excused because they weren't as intelligent, but what I'm intending to saying is that we're smart enough now, so we have no excuse.

one gender is predisposed to be bigger, stronger, have more testosterone, and has the ability to be stronger/build muscle more easily

I see this as a heuristic at best, and an excuse for sexism at worst. In my example above I'm specifically referring to two people who are equally physically capable of doing a task by definition. The man shouldn't be given preference simply because he's a man, and men happen to be stronger on average. That's not relevant when picking someone who can do the job.

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[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Eh, it's still required to work on cars/engines. Thankfully we work on smaller vehicles (Mazda/Nissan mostly) and not some big ass diesel stuff.

I can "engineer" my way out of most situations, and have been very successful accomplishing things that many men can't, because they can't "think outside the box". What I mean by that is that I have to approach things differently. I have to understand things more completely sometimes, so I can work my way around the lack of brute force, where many men can just push/lift/torque something without thought, and they get complacent. That allows me to see different solutions to things that may stump others.

That said, I have found instances where I am just not physically big, or strong enough to do something, and need help.

I also have the benefit of being much smaller, so I can get into places a lot of men can't. It has its benefits and drawbacks.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it's just more accurate to say that "there are things that only certain people with high physical strength can do." There's no reason to gender it.

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[-] Cybermass@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Yeah the only other abnormal demographic I can think of is being totally normal and well functioning mentally.

But I mean c'mon, this is an internet forum, we are all nuts here haha

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

Haha, yeah I'm DEFINITLY not "normal" or "well functioning mentally".

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago

Don't you love the term "well adjusted" :)

Always makes me smile.

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

ha. I'm definitely not that either, but yes.

[-] Treatyoself@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

You’re my hero. I always wanted to work on cars. I ended up in IT. I miss repairing shit back in my tech bench days. Using my hands to repair, build, make better. What kind of racecars?

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

We have built engines/cars for Land Speed Racing, Drifting (Forumla D, and lower classes), Rolex GrandAM, 24 hours of lemons (or similar series), more weekend warrior type stuff like AutoX or off-road toys, and engines/wiring for trucks that run in series like King of Hammers or Baja 500

[-] Treatyoself@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Can I be you when I grow up? (Am already in my 40s but that’s okay right?)

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I mean, if you want to.....

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ohhh what kind of racecar? I'm actually going after work to the shop to go scale our car. Cross is a bit off keeps getting a little loose at the corner exit.

Also a woman btw

Edit, just saw your other comment were racing very different cars but that's awesome!

[-] AttackBunny@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks! Yeah, we do all kinds of stuff.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

I’m checking off all the abnormal demographics here.

Well, actually women doing extremely cool technical work are in perception more normal than women doing more usual technical work. =\

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