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No, I did not know of these exact quotes. I know the Likud party is utter shit, authoritarian trash, and they should be voted out. I have a lot of faith that will happen especially if Israel fails to rebuild the housing and infrastructure. It's a democracy so I can have faith that the better ideals will win out. Israel just had an election not that long ago and Likud barely won.
I have zero faith Gaza will ever embrace voting as a form of government. When was Gaza's last election? Seems pretty reasonable to want to isolate political and economic capital in Gaza from the West Bank, for which I personally support statehood after benchmarks for anti corruption and anti terrorism efforts.
Thanks for admitting your mistake. It's actuall refreshing. Next step is actually challenging your own views after being confronted with facts.
Well, that's funny... given that Hamas' rise to power was during/right after an election. They already embraced that, long ago.
Why? What's reasonable about disallowing an ethnic group to have their own self-determination and representation in their own lands? the same lands you have plundered and renamed, and who you (Israel, not you) put under an apartheid rule... it's only reasonable if you want to continue ethnically cleansing them and preventing them from ever taking part in "democratic" Israel or in their own Palestinian elections.
For any people to have their own self determination they must have elections. The ideology of Hamas and it's ideological allies is antithetical to elections and for that matter to Israel.
What was Gaza's last election?
I'm sorry, are you pretending not to know this? ๐ฌ
Since you know so much about Hamas.
Yes, it's the Socratic method of rhetoric. I'm not pretending to try and fool you, but to illustrate my point. Are you pretending not to know to try and fool someone, or just don't want to answer because it will illustrate my point?
Right. Well, I'll be socratic too and ask: Have you tried Google?
As I said I already know the answer. Why won't you reply with it?
And remember, you're disagreeing with the Canadians...
Because I'm not playing these BS games with you anymore ๐