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People downplay that Access Hollywood tape, but he wasn’t joking. He was completely serious. In his mind, he could - and did – literally grab women’s pussies because he thought they’d just let him do it.
Here’s the thing, as an SA survivor, there are several natural reactions to situations like that – fight, flight, or freeze. In close quarters, you often can’t flee, and with a large attacker, you can’t always fight. Freezing is a very common response to sexual assault.
So all these years, when he says ‘they just let you do it’, he’s been describing his victims’ freeze response. You don’t have to be a star for that to be your victim’s reaction. And yet his followers and the media have turned it into a joke.
I think I can speak for many SA survivors when I say that’s disgusting, appalling, and hurtful.
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I don't find it funny at all and have to say my faith in humanity was absolutely crushed (below rock bottom) when he wasn't immediately cast out after the tape came out. My mother (in her 80s) was like "yeah, that's what we're dealing with, son".
It's not locker room talk, it's rapist talk.
As a dude who's been in plenty of locker rooms... it is indeed "rapist talk". For sure, there's bantering of all sorts (mostly about boobs and dumbshit)... but there ain't nobody in there that's proud to talk like that; Unless they actually mean it and than they sound like a creepy fucking rapist, and nobody's really having fun with the "jokes" anymore.
He's a rapist. And by continuing to open his fat fucking mouth about how that's "fine and whatever", he brings down all men in the process. Fuck that dude, he ain't allowed to be part of the "cool men's club", ya fucking weirdo. Fuck that dude
Rereading this thread, I just wanted you to know I don’t agree with your downvote. Guys admire boobs and stuff and that’s perfectly fine. Like you’re saying, there’s a line. I just wanted you to know that I appreciate you.
100%. Worse, he says ‘they’ let you do it. How many women has he done this to? Obviously more than E Jean. Looking at the hell she’s been put through since coming forward, it’s no wonder his other victims haven’t been willing to come forward.
Trump was a co-defendant along with Epstein in the rape case of a 13 year old girl who dropped the case when herself and her family were threatened with death.
He’s not just a rapist, but a serial rapist.
Statistically, probably dozens of women in his lifetime.
This, sadly, is nothing new. People like this have existed throughout all of human history... evil is deeply woven into the fabric of reality. Goodness is an outlier.
I agree with everything you said except for the last bit. I believe most people are basically good. Unfortunately we tend to see much more of the dregs of society because outrage attracts far more eyeballs than awws, so the world looks much worse than it actually is.
I’ve lived many places and have travelled a lot, and I’ve experienced more violence and hardship than many people, but in my experience, the good still far outweighs the bad.
eta: /c/upliftingnews can help if you’re feeling down about things.