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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by VILenin@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

The “best” part about the “Hitler hypnotized us” narrative promoted by the krauts in their bloviating, soporific lectures is how it presents a completely counterfactual history devoid of the violent opposition to and clashes with fascists that characterized the Weimar Republic, all in order to pretend grandpappy didn’t deserve to be blown to a million pieces because everyone supported the Nazis and nobody knew right from wrong and morality wasn’t invented until 1945. Once upon a time I thought maybe there was some element of sincerity in German repentance culture, but no - it’s all self-serving, self-absorbed, self-flattering, self-interested, self- this and that; self-centered hagiographic self-praise that treats their unspeakable crimes as elite status cards to trot out.

These fucking krauts just can’t shut the fuck up about how they have some specialized knowledge of fascism because they’re krauts. Were you there? Were you around during the Nazi era? No? Then I fail to see how you know anything more or have any more expertise on the matter than Joe Pissmonger from Montana. Maybe if you picked up a fucking book sometime instead of insisting that being a kraut gives you special privilege to speak with no prior investigation.

But apparently Teutonic blood gives you divine insight into how fascism works. Looks like they haven’t moved past their Nazi genetic woo after all.

“I’m a German and I’m here to teach you how to avoid fascism by supporting the status quo” how about you deal with your own rapidly Nazifying shithole American province before lecturing others.

Be grateful the very idea of “Germany” wasn’t razed to the ground and scattered to the wind after your dear leader escorted himself off the premises.

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[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it is pretty standard lib reasoning. But it's striking to me that this is what's taught in Germany. It would be one thing for some other country to point at us and say "I wouldn't trust them to know genocide is inherently bad, if we had withheld treats they would have just done it again", which would be understandable especially if it's a country we oppressed. It's nonmaterialist lib reasoning that mystifies the holocaust and opens up all sorts of other fascist backdoors, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what e.g. the french are taught. But when its a german saying it, it gets a whole other dimension of "look man if we don't get our treats then I cannot guarantee for what we might do next" which is just baffling in the best case, but really is frightening. You should listen to people when they threaten abuse and take necessary steps.

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