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Man, House really got out of pocket
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I rewatched recently and while there is a lot that’s dated as hell the show in general does hold up
The whole show outside of the barely plausible medical drama is about how awful House is as a human.
At every opportunity they go out of their way to spell out how horrible he is. He’s an egomaniacal drug addict with daddy issues and a borderline pedophile.
The most fun thing watching the show is counting the number of crimes he commits an episode.
If I had to choose between you and House though... Sorry bro, it's entertaining TV.
I’m not saying it’s a bad show, quite the opposite.
People who don’t grasp that he’s a terrible person but a great character just annoy me.
Probably the same people who look up to Rick Sanchez.
Pedophile??
There’s an episode where a teenage girl is into him and he is quite obviously interested.
Other characters “get in the way” and stop him from doing anything but the intent was there.
Well she was a 17 year old, dressed as an adult and was trying to seduce house. And house does the right thing by diagnosing her instead of taking advantage of her.
Im not interested in quibbling over details, she was clearly represented as being under age and all parties knew it.
House does the right thing only after being whipped by Cutty.
Edit: Im not shocked that Lemmy is sadly full of pedo apologists
Ehh he was already sort of aware when she asks why him why he thinks she likes him.
The gist of that episode was more that House was curious as to why she took a liking to him and knew that it'd push everyone's buttons so he let her.
No, you are just over eager to slap the pedo label on someone even when people are explaining why it isn't correct.
House was clearly just messing with everybody. He repeatedly rebuffs her advances. The only part properly creepy is the scene in the parking lot when the girl is leaving and has her jeans so low that her underwear is exposed and house openly leers at that. The rest of it is him just being flattered.
A far more better example of pedo like behaviour is the episode where they treat the teenage supermodel
I haven't seen all the episodes but I think the underlying point was he is an asshole with actual good intentions underneath. Like he doesn't care about the BS of being friendly, he just wants to get down to business of helping people.
It wasn't about helping people, it was about finding the solution to puzzles and proving that his solution was right. If that just happened to involve helping people, so be it.
No there are times he has genuinely helped people for no other reason than it was the right thing to do. Wilson puts it best when he says house is an asshole but a noble one
Most of the time he didn't even have good intentions though. What motivated him more than anything was being right about everything. His ego always took precedence to anything else.
Is rare that he's not used in memes as the Joker, American Psycho or the guy from picky blinders.
What are some things you'd call dated? Genuine curiosity, it's been a while since I saw some episodes.
The cell phones are pretty ancient flippers.
"what's this ih-pod?" Always gets a guffaw out of me
I’d just say the general outlook of the show is a very white male point of view. It’s still a good show but you can tell it was made in a specific period because of the conversations
The main character is a white male...why wouldn't it strongly feature his point of view?
Not at all what I meant. All of the characters regardless of their gender or ethnicity are coming from that point of view. Again still a good show and I am a white male but it’s a bit tone deaf on some things I would expect someone as smart as House to be aware of, and they likely would’ve included that were the show made today and not 2003
Huh. Cutty and foreman in particular really openly disagree with...almost everything house opines on, and call him out often. Infact even other white males like Wilson are pretty clear they find his speech and actions inappropriate
Edit: did I lie?
And yet House keeps his job and continues practicing despite his constant extremely inappropriate conduct.
“You’re fired for inappropriate medical conduct, illegal activity (breaking and entering, etc.), substance abuse, harassment, and littering.”
Show ends after the pilot episode. Is that what you’re looking for?
I mean I'd also take him undergoing some actual improvement as a person, but sure that would be better than him constantly getting away with being a horrible person and it being hand-waved with "he's just too good to lose" never mind how badly he would tank the reputation of the hospital and would be more of a liability than an asset even with his talent.
Oh but that’s not nearly as dramatic as prescribing Santa cigarettes for the shits, or letting a minor teenager get pre-sexual with him. The audience must have their fix! ARE THEY NOT ENTERTAINED‽
Yeah cause he's the main character
A couple of other characters complaining means absolutely nothing when the main character is constantly rewarded for his behaviour by the narrative.
Again, he's the main character. I already addressed that. Not uncommon for the narrative to both reward, and challenge the main character.
You're treating that as a magic term that reflects all criticism. Being the main character doesn't mean he should be immune to any and all consequences of his actions without ever having to change and improve as a person.
Most episodes featuring queer people, to start. There's an episode that portrays asexuality as a medical problem that can be cured for example. The intersex episode is another one that leaves a very bad taste in the mouth for a variety of reasons.
I stopped watching it cause I just couldn't stand House, who is never allowed to experience the consequences of his behaviour because he's just so amazing and special and always right that they can't afford to lose him, because of course no other doctors in the entire city can hold a candle to this one emotionally stunted asshole. I remember the extremely acephobic episode which was not my favourite thing to see as someone who is asexual 🙃. That was definitely the last straw for me.
Your head is in the sand if you haven't experienced people good at their craft being treated specially in their professional environment, and holding it like a crown, or that you think good doctors are easily replaceable.
i think he's just saying he doesnt enjoy watching a show with a main character that has a personality he doesnt enjoy. which is valid
There's a difference between being treated specially and having complete immunity, and I think you're a bit naive if you think talent alone is enough to protect someone's job even in the medical field. And yes, one singular talented doctor who makes 5 new enemies every time he opens his mouth would absolutely be replaceable. Do some people get treated specially in their jobs? Sure, though it's usually because of who they're friends with or who they're related to rather than their talent. But to the degree that House gets away with? He takes it to a cartoonish degree that would lead to so many lawsuits Cuddy's head would spin. Do you know how much hospital deans care about the reputation of their hospital? And no, House's success rate wouldn't prevent his patients from pursuing legal battles or tanking the hospital's reputation. House's behaviour would make him an active liability which would cancel out any benefits to gain from his talent and he wouldn't be worth giving any special treatment. But that's beside the point, I personally couldn't stand his guts and disliked how he never suffered any real consequences for his actions and that's why I stopped watching.