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The F-35 program cost taxpayers $1.7 trillion.
But hey, at least they fly well enough for us to give them to Israel I guess...
Don’t be so naive, we need to spend all that money to protect Americans from global threats such as lack of affordable healthcare and affordable housing.
Wait
checks notes
Sorry we need to spend all that money to protect Americans from looks closer… there is something scribbled here does it say “axis of evil”? Next to it someone wrote “Iran” then scribbled it out and wrote “Iraq” and then it looks like it was scribbled out a second time to write “Iran” again?…
…Oh ok there we go it also says “Islamic Extremists”, well that is a good reason! Jeez after Bin Laden it has just been one ground invasion after another of jihadi ground troops on American shores. Thank goodness we didn’t spend that money on stupid government handouts. Remember when San Francisco didn’t build enough shore cannons to blow up ISIS landing boats and now that whole part of the country is gone? sigh and the liberals were SURE painting the cannons with LGTBQ colors was going to save them..
You know what really pisses me off as a conservative though? No one in this country respects veterans. Every time I go to get on a plane and the airline invites veterans to come on first, I clap beaming like the proud patriotic American that I am. When I look around though people around me are sometimes just on their phones and ignoring this opportunity to honor our veterans. Kids these days don’t even care about veterans and if you start honoring the service of our veterans with empty platitudes around millennials they don’t even respond they just want to talk about dumb shit like how we should at least give veterans free healthcare or affordable housing or childcare support.
Why does that shit matter? What do you think veterans want the government to just give them healthcare for free after they have fought so hard for the privilege of having to buy healthcare from corporations hellbent on cutting every single cost they can, quality of health services be damned? I feel like millennials just want to live in a communist hellscape where even the hospitals and schools are government run.
Those veterans fought for our country, don’t spit in their face by offering a hand to them, this is the proud and free land of the bootstraps where anybody can make it so long as they can make it. If you see a homeless veteran on the street, share a smile with them knowing that they not only fought for the freedom of you to succeed but also for them to fail and thus balance is preserved in this wonderful land of god.
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This is 100% false. Pure disinformation. The $1.5T figure is for all costs associated with the program through to the aircraft's end of life in the year 2070.
I mean...Why the hell are we sparing 1.5 Trillion dollars of our future income on jet fighters when we won't spare even 10% of that on our own fucking people at home without a god damned 3 ring circus about how much we're already spending?
Do you not see the hypocrisy here?
No, I don't. Lots of other countries have a decent military AND good social supports. You guys can walk and chew gum at the same time.
For the life of me I will never understand why we would want to gut our military. Talk softly and carry a big stick. You don't have to agree with the engagements that we have been in to understand why we need a strong military for defense and to make sure the world knows it. This can be squared WITH veteran and other social safety net programs. No reason not to have both.
Exactly! Look at Ukraine, for example. I bet they wish they had a stronger military in 2013, or 2021. I can only assume the rabidly anti-military folks are incredibly naive, or bad actors.
In all fairness, I do think there is something to be said for rampant military spending. Big defense contractors could be doing what they do for a fraction of the cost. The doesn't mean eliminating the military. I'm not even sure who's down voting me either. I'm like, "We should have both a military and a safety net" and everyone gets mad for different reasons I guess. One because I want a military and the other because I think homelessness shouldn't exist. We have the resources. For example, in my downtown area there are a slew of "abandoned' buildings still in good repair. Why aren't we using those buildings for housing?
TBH I'd like to see the defense "industry" be nationalized. I consider it to be akin to healthcare — something that should not have a profit motive. The armed forces themselves are not profit-driven, so their equipment shouldn't be either.
We wouldn't even have need of soldiers if there weren't any soldiers to begin with.
They are a solution to a problem they caused themselves.
Or, hear me out here, we could spend $1.5T over 45 years to house the homeless. That's $33.3 billion dollars each year, every year.
But how does that immediately make Boeing richer? Think of their poor earnings.
Well, if Boeing built housing under contract for the government, they could make money that way.
How about the 2.3 trillion dollars spent in Afghanistan to replace the Taliban with the Taliban?
How about how cereal boxes keep getting smaller but the price stays the same? That has about as much to do with military procurement as your comment.
True, people paid for it with inflation and stagnant wages