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Participatory Democracy In Cuba (hexbear.net)

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[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago

Why not allow international observers from Europe or other places that aren't the US?

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Observers from other countries don’t come to Cuba because no one who knows what they are talking about thinks Cuban elections are “rigged”. Literally YOU, Shyfer, can be an observer if you really want to. The ballots are counted publicly in full view, and anyone can watch it all happen. Seriously, if you want to question it you - even as a foreigner - can just go there and watch it all happen yourself for some local election.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

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[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 7 points 9 months ago

Haha I'd love to, but the has US made it harder to travel there unless you have a specific reason. Plus tourists can't go to government hotels or buy from government shops. But that would be fun to go during an election year and stop by and just blow the minds of friends and family by saying all this stuff.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

What's your source for them not allowing observers? And are you going to read what's posted ever?

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago

It's a quote from that article I posted.

Opposition groups, primarily outside of Cuba, had encouraged voters to stay home in protest, saying the election had no meaning in a one-party system with no formal opposition or international oversight.

I read it and it's a good summary I'm just trying to wrap my head around it, and reconcile it with the criticism I've heard before about Cuban elections being a sham, such as in that linked article or on Wikipedia.

Political scientists characterize the political system of Cuba as a single-party authoritarian regime where political opposition is not permitted.[7][8][9] There are elections in Cuba, but they are not considered democratic.[10][11]

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are these the same "opposition groups" the U.S. trained to conduct terrorist attacks in Cuba? I'm skeptical of what they might have to say, especially when we don't even have a name of the group or some sort of Cuban law we can point to.

When the U.S. designates a country a state enemy, you see all sorts of stuff made up about it, along with all sorts of muddled half-truths, exaggerations, and misleading spins. You just saw an example of this -- the half (at best) truth that Cuban elections are not contested. You can't take this sort of "Bad Country" mythos at face value.