410
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2024
410 points (95.8% liked)
News
23397 readers
1796 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Just don't go there anymore. If we all got on the same page and normalize boycotting corporations for the slightest reason we could hit them where it hurts; their profits. It's the only way we can fight back against corporate greed.. Use the capitalist system they have used to divide and conquer against them. Make them fear us.
We're all so fucking broken by consumerist propaganda we think adhering to the fundamental laws of capitalist economics is "boycotting" now. When prices go too high, you're supposed to stop buying. What's happened to people is so fucking sad. We think it's somehow radical for consumers to adhere to the laws of supply and demand.
this is a symptom of a greater problem in the united states. boycotting is never going to be as effective as legislative change because boycotts take a monumental amount of effort to organize and it's very easy for people to lose interest/move on as time passes. the government needs to start doing something about these companies being too greedy (e.g. break them up, force price caps, nationalize them, etc)
It really doesn't. If you don't like something about a company, tell them and don't spend your money there. It does not need to be organised. The greater issue is not that it requires monumental effort but that people are not even willing of minimal effort if it affects their every day life. "Sure Amazon is bad... But I can't live without prime..."
That's not a boycott, it's an individual change of spending habits
It's not a boycott if you're alone
I belive that it is. As far as I know there are no size requirements to qualify for a boycott
here's the full sentence you're quoting:
sure, you can simply decide to do a one-person boycott of a company, and that wouldn't take much effort at all to organize. but when it comes to actually changing the behavior of a company, the actions of one consumer are not going to be nearly as effective as a piece of legislation. so, you'll probably need to get many people to band together and collectively decide to stop buying a company's products. this leads back to the "monumental effort" part of the sentence.
also, in order for people to decide that they don't like what a company is doing, they need to first be told that the company is doing those things. who's going to tell them?
I'd argue that if people do not like something a company does, and simply stop buying from it, it's the same as an organised boycott. I assume that I won't be the only one disliking the companys actions and that there will be more who do the same.
People simply need to realise that as consumers, we have the power to change things. It's not too different to voting. Your actions count, even though they may seem small. If we all react instead of maindleslt consuming, companies will listen. They may not react but they will listen.
They already know everything about their consumers and adjust their products accordingly to maximize sales. If people start writing to them that they have stopped buying their products or services because of this or that, they will definetelly notice
Sure. But for a successful boycott you need hundreds of thousands to millions of participants over weeks to months. Can you organize that? You're taking for granted the type of publicity campaign needed to organize a boycott like this and then you'd need to actually find enough people who care enough and have the willpower to participate. No one's going to care if 100M people boycott a place that were already not going there. You need to convince those who regularly patronize that business.
The conondrum you describe in interesting.
You argue that boycott only is effective when it is organized, and when the public realizes that the company is doing something bad, beacuse of the organized boycott. I argue that boycott will happen naturally without organisation when customers realise that a company does something that they don't like.
The key in both is, that people know, that the company is doing something bad. This can be something bad to environmet, something bad to its employees, something bad to animals etc. From what i have noticed, this is enough for people to stop shopping in one place and find somewhere else to do their shopping. No orgonized boycott or legislations involved. The latest example I have noticed, was a pretty large local boycott of fast growing chicken meat in supermarkets. These are chicken who grow from 50 grams to 2Kg within 6 weeks. There were no legislations, no organised boycott. Many people just refused not only to buy them, but even to shop at the stores that had them. They have now gradually been removed because people didn't like them being sold.
Gotta cook at home.
Any alternative options run $5 for 800 calories in San Francisco, besides home cooking?
Ah! Taco Bell does have ‘em beat:
Anywhere else I think you’d need [app] coupons to achieve parity, though I could be wrong.
I swear Domino's pizza is the best calorie to dollar ratio here. You can get a pizza that's probably more than your daily calorie requirement for under $5 if you buy something like a Hawaiian at lunch time.
Just checked and a deep pan pepperoni is over 1200kcal and is AUD7 (USD4.60).
A bottle of oil is more than your daily calorie requirements and is probably cheaper.
Ding ding ding!
Have to use one of their permanent coupons, otherwise it’s more than twice as expensive ($18.99).
Has between 2550-2640 calories as built, so:
Taco Bell: 3.38/420=0.008
Domino’s: 7.99/2600=0.0031
.8 cents per calorie versus .3 cents per calorie. What a deal! (Health evaluation not included :) )
Omg a cheesy bean and rice burrito used to be like $1.29 or so just a few years ago.
Used to be 99c and had pico on it. I still will eat them but they're not the same :(
It's also the absolute only thing they listen to. We've seen it time and time again, they'll go back on their promises, actively harm their own customers, lie and make excuses on social media, and more for that tiny little bit of extra profit...