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The Verge - The fediverse, explained (www.theverge.com)

submitted 9 months ago by clgoh@lemmy.ca to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ATM, you can't. Normal mastodon posts are not understood by lemmy servers. They don't know how to handle content that is not associated with a community.

Most of the fediverse is like twitter. Users making posts to their own "microblogs"/profiles, following each other or browsing a timeline of all posts by everyone. That's mastodon, and it has by far the most activity.

Lemmy doesn't support profile posts, and you can't follow users, only communities.

Basically, all content on Lemmy is posted to groups, while all content on Mastodon is posted to the users own profiles. While the networks are technically connected, the content type is not compatible.

I hear mastodon is getting support for groups, though, which might be something that can be interoperable with lemmy communities. Then they could look at communities as if they were user groups, and post to them, and we could sub to mastodon user groups, and see their posts and feeds as if they were communities.

But until Lemmy implements support for "user" posts and "user" following, we won't see the majority of content of that type, coming from mastodon.

There's already some funky interoperability that comes from the underlying structure of communities kind of being user accounts, where mastodon users can follow Lemmy communities, and post to communities by mentioning them. But it's not pretty.

[-] ianovic69@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago

There's already some funky interoperability.... But it's not pretty.

I noticed a Masto post in my subscribed feed recently. It looked fine to me but I'm on Jerboa so I don't know if that makes a difference?

I've never understood why anyone wants to follow other people though. Things, hobbies etc? Yes. Individuals? No thank you.

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the Mastodon user has to do an @ tag for the community in their toot, so if @community@instance.com is in their toot then it'll show up on that Lemmy community

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that's why Reddit was the only platform I ever got into. And now Lemmy.

Obviously a post on Lemmy will look like a Lemmy post, but the interoperability is kinda cursed when you look into how it actually ends up working.

[-] ianovic69@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah did ten years on Reddit, nothing else but early FB which I deleted after the algo took over.

They can post here then, I'm fine with that. If they can't see my comments that's fine as well. Lemmy is great, I don't need more.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

Oh I'm not against the interoperability, the opposite, I want it to be better.

Comments do work.

Right now it's really convoluted and I've seen people accidentally post to lemmy while thinking they were just pinging a user, when it actually was a community.

And following communities from mastodon is a mess because they obviously then fill the feed with way more posts than a single person would. And they all look like they're posted by the user/community instead of the actual user that posted them TO that community. Not to mention they don't see votes and have to no good way to sort community content, except chronologically.

[-] ianovic69@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

That is a mess! If they do sort it out it will increase engagement, and that's no bad thing. Interesting times ahead.

[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I happily follow users that make things. Artists, video producers, what have you. I don't want to miss any of their work. That said, not having user profiles wasn't a big deal on Reddit, you would just create a subreddit with your username and it worked fine.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

There's already some funky interoperability that comes from the underlying structure of communities kind of being user accounts, where mastodon users can follow Lemmy communities, and post to communities by mentioning them. But it's not pretty.

If you put the mention at the top like Mastodon defaults it'll look very messy on Lemmy because it will be trying to insert a MD link in the title field. If the mansion and hashtags are placed at the bottom of the post instead though, the post will appear fine on Lemmy.

There are a few guides on how to create posts that are compliant, Basically it's like this:

[Title] separated by blank line [Body]

[Hashtags (optional)

[Community mention] *you can only mention one community and if you want the post to appear on Lemmy that Community should be the first mention. If you want to mention people on Mastodon their mentions must come after.

Biggest drawbacks currently are: