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[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago

Here's an idea... why not ban all robo-calls?

[-] officermike@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Because there are legitimate reasons for some robo calls. Appointment reminders and confirmations, school weather closure announcements, two-factor login verification, etc.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago

How about ban non-opt in robocalls?

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 20 points 9 months ago

You can do all this things without robo calls. There are no robo calls in Germany for example.

[-] scorpionix@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I thought I lived in a pretty backwards part of Germany but your corner must be extremely off the grid!

To just name one example in Germany: Verification via robo call in WhatsApp.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago

Oh, I genuinely didn't know there are robo calls in Germany, never encountered them - always used sms or other kinds of verification. My bad.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Today, history was made. For the first time someone politely admitted they were wrong on the internet

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

It would be a good trade. Lose the few semi-useful legitimate ones to get rid of the overwhelming majority which are malicious scammers and conservative dickbags.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

No there isn't.

Text if school is cancelled. Throw 2fa out the window. Phone numbers are not identity. Text appointment reminders. Literally nothing needs a robo voice that isn't better as text.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Then you clearly don't matter to Mango.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Blind people use special assistive software on their phones so they can hear text

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Radio. Text to speech. Having someone who cares about you.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

You want your doctor to broadcast your appointment reminders over the radio?

[-] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My doctor can afford to call or text or have a secretary do so.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

In 2024, have a human call for reminders for every client every single day for every appointment… yeah right. Enjoy that while it lasts.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

If you don't have the time to call all of your patients, you don't have the time to provide medical care to them.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You'll actually have a lot of time to provide medical care to your patients when you don’t have to waste all that time calling them for no reason when that can be easily automated.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Doctors don’t have secretaries, they have medical assistants, and medical billing and coding. Both of which have better things to do than make appointment reminder calls all day when it can be easily automated.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Anything? Yup.

[-] kyle@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

Phone numbers actually can be an identity, but generally that's just business numbers. There's also a lot of phone numbers that aren't cell phones and can't get texts. It's a lot easier and cheaper for companies to design one system. Depending on the company, they'll still do text/email reminders for things. Old people like phone calls, so companies need to know their audience too. Again, cheaper to build a single system, so that tends to be the default.

Source: I design call centers for a living, personally done probably 200+ projects over the years, in banking, insurance, retail, transportation, state/local govt, etc.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Absolutely not. I can't use my Amazon account because of this stupid shit.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

iirc, they are banned... to cell phones, with very limited exceptions.

but that relies on honest callers, and sufficient resources being available to adequately enforce.

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