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[-] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

So what's your solution, let's leave all Palestinians die of hunger?

And again to reiterate, Hamas might have killed a bit less than 1000 civilians, but IDF has killed 20 times more. They are also responsible for the destruction of almost half the civilian infrastructure there, the destruction of civilian homes, agricultural land, mass starvation, has created dire humanitarian catastrophe, damaged hospitals, killed paramedics, kids, manage to turn this war the deadliest for journalists in modern history, committed numerous war crimes, are investigated by the ICJ for committing genocide, etc. and you still defend them?

Shall we also mention that you managed to frustrate greatly even your closest ally the US, who is getting more annoyed with you by the day and now you are planning to attack Rafah, where more than half of the population of Gaza is sheltering, pushing them more to the abyss of despair.

And these are indisputable FACTS.

[-] idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 8 months ago

Hamas might have killed a bit less than 1000 civilians, but IDF has killed 20 times more

Notice how you know the exact civilian vs combatant numbers for the Israeli side but not for the Palestinians. IDF claims a 7-9k dead combatants, so that's an almost 2:1 ratio, which is unheard of especially in this dense urban fighting while Hamas tries to maximize civilian casualties.

They are also responsible for the destruction of almost half the civilian infrastructure there, the destruction of civilian homes, agricultural land, mass starvation, has created dire humanitarian catastrophe, damaged hospitals, killed paramedics, kids, manage to turn this war the deadliest for journalists in modern history, committed numerous war crimes

Yeah, all of that is on Hamas

and you still defend them?

Israel is the only side who had actually strived for peace over the years, that enthusiasm for peace has been tested to the extreme and unfortunately dwindled for obvious reasons, but even after the horrific events of October 7th you can still find voices calling for a two state solution. There was no such attempts for peace from the Palestinians, on the contrary - just more missiles and terror attacks for every attempt at a permanent settlement of the conflict. So, yeah, of course I defend them.

Shall we also mention that you managed to frustrate greatly even your closest ally the US, who is getting more annoyed with you by the day and now you are planning to attack Rafah, where more than half of the population of Gaza is sheltering, pushing them more to the abyss of despair.

Hamas is an obstacle to peace and must be disabled, they can stop this war now if they wanted by releasing the man, woman, children and babies (!) they currently hold captive, and surrender. If they don't do that Israel had no other viable course of action to get rid of this threat, hopefully with as little civilian casualties as possible.

And these are indisputable FACTS.

Some facts, some unsubstantiated propaganda, some opinions

[-] filister@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

What from what I said is unsubstantiated propaganda?

Because these are all facts that can be easily confirmed with a simple google search from sources of Reuters, AP, etc.

Saying that all the civilian casualties, destroyed infrastructure, homes, hospitals, roads are Hamas fault is the most childish and one sided thing you can say.

I think arguing with you is a waste of time, as you seem to be extremely brainwashed.

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