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Finally a well thought out and reasonable response. I appreciate that, along with the lack of name-calling.
The issue at hand is, mere negligence, even if it was ruled as such, rarely elicits a conviction, and oftentimes won't even resort in charges. Stack that with the resentment that roughly 50% of the voting public (not ongoing to argue numbers, just using it as a rough guide) would see it as an attack on the person whom they believed in and voted for (or saw as a foil to someone they liked less, in this case Biden).
There's also the issue that criminal negligence is notoriously hard to convict on, and in the highly unlikely scenario it were charged, convicted and sentenced, it wouldn't take a dream team of lawyers to overturn based on unequal application of the law, which, in this case, wouldn't take more than watching the nightly news.
None of this is stating that it's my belief that he was criminally negligent by using the terms "fight like hell" and such, I do not. It's common enough vernacular in the English language that to try and indict, let alone convict on it is pretty paper-thin.
Look, I understand that roughly half of the country dislikes him, if not outright hates him. However, that isn't enough to throw out precedent in an attempt to remove him from the ballot. The fact that it is being tried in several states is, in its pure form, fascism.
Interesting that you bring up the possibility of false flag actors, I wasn't going to go there, but I do appreciate the honesty in that it is quite possible there were some there.
I can at least partially agree, however I want to preference that with had he actually intentionally incited the riot he should be removed given the nationalistic bases making it pretty fascist in it own right. However, it has already been found that there's insufficient evidence (specifically for the riot at least) in a court of law and in so removing him at this point would indeed be pretty unjust.
I'm nearly 100% sure that there were, like we already know that the QAnon cult was there because they were very public about their presence and I had already seen them planing it on their brain rot forums prior to it. The other parties are a bit more dubious to varying degree but I'm not going to pretend like there isn't any evidence because there most certainly is even if it's not completely solid. There's also the given that the QAnon cult have their own connections and intersections with other radical parties that were said to have been involved.
As for the glowies involvement; though the most dubious; It'd not be surprising either, Biden would make for a pretty good puppet considering his mental state and it's not like they haven't puppeteer-ed before, for example... The NSA & FBI capitalizing on 9/11 by exploiting their connection with president Bush to sign in the patriot act authorizing them to violate privacy and civil liberties via the conduct of warrantless wiretaps and surveillance on international phone calls and emails of American citizens as part of the President's Surveillance Program and Terrorist Surveillance Program. Which the NSA's mass surveillance programs was then exposed by Edward Snowden, a former contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA), in 2013.
You won't find much of an argument with me on any of these points. We see our freedoms get trampled on in the name of... whatever, and too many people just say "thank you sir, may I have another".
It seems that a lot of anti-trump/pro-biden folk just downvote anything even slightly differing in opinion without even understanding the nuance and that's a big character flaw on their part, granted pro-trump/anti-biden folk can be the same way; however I've found the pro-biden folk to be more so.
Like I've already said previously, I'm pretty anti-both and criticize them more or less equally but anti-trump folk seems to be "if you're not with me, your against me", when in reality I'm neither; the only thing I'm 'with' is human rights, but they don't care; all they see is an attack on their beloved and completely ignore the true nature of my standing.