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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee -3 points 8 months ago

You only responded to two of my points.

Orion allows Firefox extensions and I’m sure others do as well

I honestly didn't know about Orion. The lack of alternate browser engines on iOS is still problematic though.

DNS ad blocking works too through VPN ad blockers

Cool, you refuted one more point. How about the rest? You still need an Apple account to use iOS properly - to install apps, to have automatic cloud backup (only iCloud is allowed to run in the background - and I know because I used to use Google photos, you had to have the app open to backup photos). You can't edit the status bar to show a network speed indicator or anything else. You can't install third party SMS, phone, or launcher apps and the FOSS environment is quite small anyway due to Apple's walled garden with the app store and hostility to developers - It costs $99 p/a + the cost of an Apple computer to release an app to the Apple app store.

You just didn’t do any research or are not really at the nerdom level to be so appreciative of an Android.

Lol, gatekeeping, much? I would argue even for noobs android is better just for the FOSS suite available and ease of switching if they do become more tech literate and start caring more about customisablity.

Android is the obvious choice, but only specific ones of course cuz there’s hate there too towards specific brands if you’re super nerd.

Any Android device is miles above an Apple device, but eg Pixels with GrapheneOS are obviously going to be superior to Samsung or Huawei phones too. On that I agree with you.

[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think both are great and have nearly all of the same things. Really all I was getting at.

iCloud is a plus for me as it intertwines everything I use seamlessly. I can’t argue a point against you not wanting an apple account.

I agree with the side loading points but for me the greater argument there is what are you needing to side load and is there not something better that already exists without having to side load? I’m a super nerd and don’t have anything I need to side load but I have AltStore setup just in case I would want to.

I agree with the browser crap too. I have no issues there though either other than safari maybe being too strict on cookies at times. I have all the extensions I need, even userscripts. Shortcuts is extremely powerful these days too.

Why do I need a third party sms? I honestly don’t even know what that means? There’s tons of different apps for alternate phone numbers for texting. Or you really want to have a completely different messages app using all of the features of the Messages app? For what? Launcher apps were cool when I was flashing custom roms and stuff as a teenager.

They’re not miles above. What FOSS do you absolutely need that isn’t on iOS?

Again I find them both great… I just don’t understand the need to come in to threads and bash apple users.

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