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A RULE SPY'S IN THE BASE?! (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by TheCoolerMia@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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I searched up "Lemmy" on the PlayStore and noticed that Reddit appears right before the last lemmy client in that search X3 do u guys know if there r any other lemmy clients worth trying? I randomly felt like trying all I could find and for now I'll stay on Jerboa and the Web UI but I use Voyager too now, mainly for DMs

Edit: I apparently wasn't clear enough but I was asking for OTHER clients that aren't on this list X3 but feel free to share why u use an app in this list if u want anyway :3

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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Then you don't understand the fediverse my friend. These "clients" are monetizing something that's free.

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 17 points 9 months ago

Nah it's fine for people to make money off of their work, i even support sopuli.xyz continuity

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No man I get the point of paid apps. I don't think it should collect and sell data. That's the poison pill with this whole deal.

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's my understanding that Boost don't serve ads, and doesn't track data, if you pay for it.

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

The point is it doesn't, it serves ads if you don't pay. It doesn't sell data, just uses google adsense to serve ads.

The other point where it collects and shares data with third parties is when connecting to third party servers (lemmy). That's it...

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Google adsense collects data.

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

I think you're missing the point intentionally

[-] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

Free software != free of charge.

Nothing about free software says you need to give it away for no cost, nor that anyone can't do it. You can charge $100 for a simple calculator program that is under the GPL for its code. Nothing is there to prevent you from assembling the code and making it yourself, or from the buyer from copying and sharing the program. It's just way way easier to show off the program for free as in price and freedom for most programmers.

It's why the people who made Debian/Slackware/Ubuntu discs could charge money for an otherwise free product. Because the programmers openly allow this.

And programming is itself labor, just a lot of free software devs don't worry too much about getting paid for it.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

Except for one special situation, the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) has no requirements about how much you can charge for distributing a copy of free software. You can charge nothing, a penny, a dollar, or a billion dollars. It's up to you, and the marketplace, so don't complain to us if nobody wants to pay a billion dollars for a copy.

The one exception is in the case where binaries are distributed without the corresponding complete source code. Those who do this are required by the GNU GPL to provide source code on subsequent request. Without a limit on the fee for the source code, they would be able set a fee too large for anyone to pay—such as a billion dollars—and thus pretend to release source code while in truth concealing it. So in this case we have to limit the fee for source in order to ensure the user's freedom. In ordinary situations, however, there is no such justification for limiting distribution fees, so we do not limit them.

Sometimes companies whose activities cross the line stated in the GNU GPL plead for permission, saying that they “won't charge money for the GNU software” or such like. That won't get them anywhere with us. Free software is about freedom, and enforcing the GPL is defending freedom. When we defend users' freedom, we are not distracted by side issues such as how much of a distribution fee is charged. Freedom is the issue, the whole issue, and the only issue.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The point I was trying to make (and I should have made properly) is that paid software has a free tier supported by ads. It being paid is just a trigger that makes me think "are they injecting google's code in their product". And if they are then your data IS being collected without your consent or knowledge by Google. (Same goes for any other "ad" provider). Who knows what the google API call takes?