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We don't earn it.
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This is about as on the nose as any take on the topic that I've seen. Holy shit, we're telling people they don't deserve to live. Some simple truths are profound when you say them out loud.
I think people may be seeing it the wrong way round or at least not taking into account the other side.
I've been unemployed two years since a mental breakdown. A lot of people may think I'm living the high life with nothing to do and just chilling. But it destroys you having no work! Everyday is a battle against the dark thought - "what's the point in life if I'm not DOING something?"
You may think you'd do the hobbies you do at weekend - but you don't. Not when you're not working long-term. You just coast with every day exactly the same. Nothing has meaning. Weekends aren't special Even something as simple as going to the library - I love books! But why bother? I can do that tomorrow. Tomorrow comes and I don't go.
I'm not saying people need to be wage slaves and work dead-end jobs. But people have to work for their own sanity. It's why a lot of retired people degenerate and/or go back to light work.
They don't deserve to live if they don't earn it.
If a lion doesn't run after zebras, it dies.
Ok but not every animal is a lion.
Sloths just wanna chill in the trees eating leaves.
And they'll still die if they fail to exert whatever effort is required to obtain sustenance.
So, basically just surviving off of what the tree gives to them? They just have to make a conscious effort to eat and not be killed by other animals?
AKA: Earning a living
Yes. I get what you are trying to say. But earning for a living means diffrent things for people. A lion would try to be a CEO and live a lavish lifestyle off his own dime. A sloth would be happy living off UBI and going to the local grocery store to see what's on sale that day in order to decide what's for dinner that night.
People, like animals as you've greatly pointed out, live the lifestyle they've been given. Some animals (people) go out and live life to the fullest to achieve the most they can (a la a lion going out to get the biggest prey than can catch to feed their pride). Other people (like sloths) are alright eating slightly rotten leaves every once in a while cause they appreciate what the tree has given them (a theoretical situation where people on UBI are happy with the handout life they've been give).
Now you may go into that "theoretical" situation I said and say there will be people that aren't happy on UBI and resort to theft and whatnot. Going back to the animal analogy, hyenas and vultures are a real animal and resort to an unsavory lifestyle according to most. There will always be bad and outliers but you can't base your whole opinion on them
Yes, that's why we care for infants, orphans, injured, disabled and elderly people. We have a progressive tax system that favors low income people and even doesn't tax a subsistence minimum at all, we take care of poor people. Even disadvantaged people in far away countries.
Able bodied humans should be able to pull their own weight.
They don't deserve have John break his back growing wheat for them and have Bob come build them a house just because they feel like staying at home playing computer games (badly) all day. Because if they were good at it, they could earn a living with it.
Some people don't deserve to live, simple as. Point-in-case: Hitler
Hitler broke a vital and important contract with others. Live and let live. The moment they broke that implicit contract they totally opened a can of worms and whoopass upon themselves. They totally earned it
More folk need to understand about the contract of tolerance and the golden rule.